What makes Bamber innocent?

[mike tesko]

This is what PC 'David Bird (SOCO), told COLP investigators, in his witness statement to them on the 31st January, 2001:-

'The photographs produced from strips numbered, 0020, 0040, 0015, 0034, 0012, 0009, 0037, were placed by me in an order to represent that in which the photographs were originally taken. I now know that order to be incorrect. Upon reviewing the photographs from negatives 0034, I find that those photographs should be placed in the folder DB/100, after those numbered 0012...

So, 'the cat is now well and truly out of the bag', the anshuzt rifle was 'not' photographed against the bedroom window 'after' it had been photographed upon Sheila's body, it 'had been photographed' against the bedroom window 'before' it was photographed 'on Sheila's body'. That being the case, it establishes beyond doubt that cops placed the rifle from the bedroom window (23) in negative strip 0012, upon Sheila Caffells body (25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32) in negative strip 0034, 'after' it had been photographed at the bedroom window. proving beyond doubt that cops were responsible for putting the anshuzt rifle upon Sheila Caffells body, and that Jeremy could not have done, what cops themselves had done...

In a nutshell, cops framed Jeremy for the murder of his family because they framed him over the murder of his sister, by claiming that he staged his sisters death scene with use of the rifle to make cops think that his sister had killed herself. when all along the cops themselves had put the rifle onto her body (from the bedroom window)...

[John]

So, 'the cat is now well and truly out of the bag', the anshuzt rifle was 'not' photographed against the bedroom window 'after' it had been photographed upon Sheila's body, it 'had been photographed' against the bedroom window 'before' it was photographed 'on Sheila's body'. That being the case, it establishes beyond doubt that cops placed the rifle from the bedroom window (23) in negative strip 0012, upon Sheila Caffells body (25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32) in negative strip 0034, 'after' it had been photographed at the bedroom window. proving beyond doubt that cops were responsible for putting the anshuzt rifle upon Sheila Caffells body, and that Jeremy could not have done, what cops themselves had done...

In a nutshell, cops framed Jeremy for the murder of his family because they framed him over the murder of his sister, by claiming that he staged his sisters death scene with use of the rifle to make cops think that his sister had killed herself. when all along the cops themselves had put the rifle onto her body (from the bedroom window)...

For heavens sake, nobody is disputing the fact that the police lifted the rifle away from the body to render it and the scene safe and then replaced it later.  Standard procedure old bean. No big deal!!     

Only you could make this very uncomplicated issue into one big conspiracy.  If this is the best you can come up with there definately is no hope for Bamber.

[Jane]

I am, therefore, a self confessed 'genius'...

Then you'll be aware of the reverse side of the genius coin, won't you?

[guest2181]

For heavens sake, nobody is disputing the fact that the police lifted the rifle away from the body to render it and the scene safe and then replaced it later.  Standard procedure old bean. No big deal!!     

Only you could make this very uncomplicated issue into one big conspiracy.  If this is the best you can come up with there definately is no hope for Bamber.

No they didn't.

Photograph 23 was taken after the series of photographs including photograph 32.

The numerical references are not indicative of the order in which photographs were taken.

Bird photographed the main bedroom (with rifle on Sheila) , he then photographed the rest of the house.

In the meantime, the rifle was removed and leant against the window.

Bird then returned to the main bedroom and took further photographs.

It is quite simple, there is no mystery.

[mike tesko]

No they didn't.

Photograph 23 was taken after the series of photographs including photograph 32. I am afraid not, since in his COLP Witness Statement, dated, 31st January, 2001, PC Bird corrects the mistake by declaring that he had got the order with which the negative strips (each containing 10 frames) had been taken at the scene by himself. He had originally maintained in keeping with his trial testimony that negative strip 0034  had been taken before the photographs in negative strip 0012. But, as I have pointed out, he corrected 'that mistake' in the aforementioned statement, and said, 'I NOW KNOW THAT ORDER TO BE INCORRECT'. He went further, 'UPON REVIEWING THE PHOTOGRAPHS PRODUCED FROM NEGATIVES 0034, I FIND THAT THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS SHOULD BE PLACED IN FOLDER DB/100 AFTER THOSE NUMBERED 0012'. Now, just to re-emphasize which photographs were from negative strip 0034 and 0012, I can confirm that photograph No.23 which shows the anshuzt rifle leaning near the side of the main bedroom window is from negative strip 0012. It shows a view looking into the main bedroom from the vantage point of the middle landing on the main stairs, and in the background you can see the rifle in question leaning near the left hand edge of the bedroom window. Now, PC Bird has made a fresh witness statement declaring that he took all the photographs contained on negative strip 0012 before the other photographs he took which were taken by use of negative strip 0034, which contain the crime scene photographs which show the same rifle from the bedroom window now upon Sheila Caffells body. It there is with 100% certainty that cops staged Sheila Caffells death scene on the bedroom floor with use of the anshuzt rifle that had been at the bedroom window before it ended up on Sheila's body. Now, you can try as hard as you like to try and cast doubt upon this 'fact', but sadly the cat is now out of the bag, the rifle in question was at the bedroom window, and photographed at the bedroom window, before it was on the body, and photographed on the body. The order with which PC Bird took the key photographs (using negative strips 0012 and then 0034) gives confirmation of this. So, now we all know that what the prosecution brainwashed the jury with on the back of lies told during the trial by 'Ron' Cook, and 'David' Bird, regarding the sequence with which the rifle was 'allegedly photographed at the bedroom window', and 'on the body', was nothing but 'a pack of lies', lies which were introduced so that the bad cops and the prosecution could rely upon the false claim, that the photographic evidence being relied upon proved that Sheila Caffell could not have shot herself, and that there was only one other possibility as to culpability, and that was that 'Jeremy' had shot her, and staged his sisters death scene with use of the anshuzt rifle to fool cops into accepting that Sheila had taken her own life, when all along everyone now knows it was the cops who placed the rifle on her body and then took photographs themselves which purport that she had taken her own life. PC Bird and Ron Cook committed perjury whilst testifying during the trial, and 'Conspired to pervert the course of Justice'. Just like in the 'Hillsboro' cover up, a cop or two, or more will have to be prosecuted, and should go to jail for the evil, vile acts they committed. You cannot trust the poliuce, you cannot trust the CPS, they are the real criminals amongst us...

The numerical references are not indicative of the order in which photographs were taken. Yes, they are - negative strip 0012 includes the photograph (23) which places the anshuzt rifle at the bedroom window, before that same rifle is on the body (25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32) PC Bird confirms this himself...

Bird photographed the main bedroom (with rifle on Sheila) , he then photographed the rest of the house. No, he didn't, he took photographs in the kitchen first, then came up the main stairs and whist using negative strip 0012 he photographed the anshuzt rifle at the bedroom window, capturing its presence there in photograph No.23. Afterwards, he took photographs on negative strip 0034 showing the same rifle from the bedroom window, now on Sheila Caffells body. Try not to forget that at 9am PS Adams saw Sheila's body in the bedroom and that he had no recollection of the gun being with her body at 'that' stage. Similarly, after the arrival of DS Jones at the scene, he saw Sheila's body on the bed sporting a single gunshot wound to her neck, without the rifle on the body (at least thats what Ann Eaton was told by DS Jones later that same morning)...

In the meantime, the rifle was removed and leant against the window. You have got the sequence 'wrong'. Let me remind you of the 'facts'. The anshuzt rifle was placed at an upstairs window by Sheila at around 7.15am. I am not even bothered about arguing which upstairs window she had placed that rifle at. If she had placed that rifle at any other upstairs window other than at the main bedroom window, the case would be far more compelling for the cops to be responsible for shooting and killiung her, for bringing that rifle from a window elsewhere other than in the main bedroom itself, and bringing it into the main bedroom and placing it on Sheila's body so that cops could take photographs to show how Sheila had shot 'herself' by use of that gun. But,, hey hang on a minute. if Sheila died on the bedroom floor as a result of being shot by the anshuzt rifle once let alone twice, how did the anshuzt rifle get from the upstairs window of another room in the farmhouse, after 7.15am, onto her body 'after' photograph No.23, from negative strip 0012? You explain that away, and good luck with your attempts to do so. The problem the cops have now, and you are also restricted by what you can say because transcripts exist of the trial testimony given by both PC 'David' Bird, and DI 'Ron' Cook, regarding this very matter, together with relevant witness statements, and of course the undeniable 'fact' that, cops created a 'false photographic record' in the form of what became officially known as, 'THE MASTER COPY ALBUM' containing, as it were only 223 of the 581 photographs that cops took in connection with the so called investigation into this death, and the death of the other four victims. Good luck trying to make up excuses for what this bunch of corrupted cops did, and have done. You cannot falsify evidence like these cops have and expect the Criminal justice system to be seen to be doing nothing. 'Malfeance in office', that's what we are dealing with here, it isn't just corrupt cops that is the problem, its the criminal justice system itself, how it operates, how the rules of engagement can be bent and manipulated.../color]

Bird then returned to the main bedroom and took further photographs.Keep believing the lies that PC Bird and Ron Cook told to the court in October, 1986 - 'good luck'...

It is quite simple, there is no mystery. I agree, the truth is out in the open now, at long last...

[mike tesko]

For heavens sake, nobody is disputing Cops said on oath that nobody removed the anshuzt rifle at all from the body of Sheila Caffell until 'after' PC Bird (SOCO) had taken all of his photographs with her in possession of it, and that it was not until 11.10am that morning, that Cook asked PI Montgomery (or was it PS Woodcock) to check to see if the gun was still loaded, and to make it safe, so please do not try to justify lies which have been told by Bird and Cook whilst testifying about the time when the rifle was removed from the body. Forget the time it was removed from the body, instead try to concentrate on the time the gun was 'placed onto the body'. It was placed on the body of Sheila by cops after PC Bird photographed the same rifle (ansuzt) resting near the main bedroom window in photograph No.23 (negative strip 0012). Then the gun was put onto Sheila''s body (not by Jeremy) and PC Bird took photographs, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32, (negative strip 0034), which part don't you profess to understand? Are you trying to advocate that it is 'alright' for cops to interfere with a crime scene? Is it alright for cops to 'fabricate evidence by adopting these tactics'? Is that what your saying, and what your position is? This is a very serious matter, telling lies, fabricating evidence, just to secure a conviction for anything let alone five murders, but you say there's nothing wrong with what cops have done, and what cops did, oh well... the fact that the police lifted the rifle away from the body to render it and the scene safe and then replaced it later. Refer to the evidence that 'Ron' Cook did not remove the rifle from the body, and give it to whoever to check it and render it sage until 11.10pm, which if you did not but know was about 50 minutes after PC Bird photographed the rifle in Sheila Caffells possession as per photographs, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32, which in turn were photographs that PC Bird had taken 'after he had already photographed the same rifle at the main bedroom window as per photograph No.23 in negative strip 0012... Standard procedure old bean.Yes, standard procedure, but illegal, and diabolically evil. You can't tamper with a crime scene, then take photographs which you 'jiggle about' and present the time certain photographs had been taken, and make false witness statements, and give false testimony at court under oath, and expect not to be prosecuted. the things you are advocating are criminal offences 'old bean'. It's illegal, not acceptable, and I can't believe that you have taken that attitude... No big deal!! , It's a MASSIVE issue, not a big deal... ;D   

Only you could make this very uncomplicated issue into one big conspiracy.I can't wait to see these cops defend what I have uncovered. I look forward to the CPS doing what they do best. We will see how trustworthy and 'honest' this set of evil bastards really are? It is 'not in the interests of justice' for Jeremy Bambers incarceration to continue a second longer, for these crimes that bent cops adopting corrupt practices, and the dodgy Crown Prosecution Service to get away with this...  If this is the best you can come up with there definately is no hope for Bamber.You are obviously corrupt yourself, taking that view - shame on you...

[mike tesko]

Here is some correspondence about why Ralph Bamber had to give up his position as Chairman of the Witham Bench:-

[Jane]

Here is some correspondence about why Ralph Bamber had to give up his position as Chairman of the Witham Bench:-

It turned in to an extraordinarily long three month leave of absence. The letter appears to be dated January 1981.

[mike tesko]

It turned in to an extraordinarily long three month leave of absence. The letter appears to be dated January 1981.

Yes, because threats had been made against his life, and the lives of his family, and 'your point is'?

[mike tesko]

Then you'll be aware of the reverse side of the genius coin, won't you?

To 'coin a phrase', exactly...

[sami]

morning mike ,iam disappointed you havent answered my post ,did police also shoot sheila's accomplice  and how did he leave whf.thanks

[Jane]

Yes, because threats had been made against his life, and the lives of his family, and 'your point is'?

MY point was that Jan 1981 to Aug 1985 is a LITTLE more than three months. I do NOT accept that any threat would have gone on, uninvestigated, for that long. There appears to be no formal notice of his resignation, which after that length of time, would surely have been necessary.

[sami]

Here is some correspondence about why Ralph Bamber had to give up his position as Chairman of the Witham Bench:-

mike the last letter above ,are you sure it was written by nb and not jb bescause jb is well know for writing in capital letters unless they both shared that trait

[mike tesko]

morning mike ,iam disappointed you havent answered my post ,did police also shoot sheila's accomplice  and how did he leave whf.thanks

Morning Sami, 'no, they didn't shoot Sheila's accomplice. At just before 5am that morning cops with guns were not by that stage in position at the scene, and besides cops didn't even know that anybody had been shot by that stage, unless you know something that I don't. No, Sheila's accomplice just walked away from the farmhouse, cops did not know that the 'scruffy looking hunched shouldered man they saw on 'that' occasion, had been Sheila's accomplice, but rest assured that what I am saying is correct. I am surprised no-one has asked me more about him, his 'real identity', that is?

[mike tesko]

MY point was that Jan 1981 to Aug 1985 is a LITTLE more than three months. I do NOT accept that any threat would have gone on, uninvestigated, for that long. There appears to be no formal notice of his resignation, which after that length of time, would surely have been necessary.

Ah, you think there was only one set of threats?

Now, your thinking along the right lines - What about the 'Jimmy Bell' episode, when do you think that happenned?