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Re: Sheila's Clean Hands
« Reply #90 on: January 15, 2016, 02:06:PM »
It's blood from the wounds in her neck which has soaked through to the back of her night dress and started to dry.

Nothing more, and nothing less.




"Clotted areas  ?" So low down from her neck and in her back ? How did they get there ?

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« Reply #91 on: January 15, 2016, 02:12:PM »



"Clotted areas  ?" So low down from her neck and in her back ? How did they get there ?


"So low down"??? The largest stain covered the area between the nightdress collar and the arm pit.

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Re: Sheila's Clean Hands
« Reply #92 on: January 15, 2016, 02:18:PM »

They have entirely different meanings to me, Maggie. For instance, I wouldn't call for medical assistance just because someone was bleeding.
They mean the same thing, Sheila was haemorrhaging blood.  I know I am being pedantic, sorry, ;) but they do mean the same thing :)

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Re: Sheila's Clean Hands
« Reply #93 on: January 15, 2016, 02:23:PM »
They mean the same thing, Sheila was haemorrhaging blood.  I know I am being pedantic, sorry, ;) but they do mean the same thing :)






It is one and the same thing.Just another word for bleeding profusely.

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« Reply #94 on: January 15, 2016, 02:30:PM »



"Clotted areas  ?" So low down from her neck and in her back ? How did they get there ?

It's not. It got to where it got to by gravity.

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« Reply #95 on: January 15, 2016, 02:35:PM »
It's not. It got to where it got to by gravity.





If the girl was flat on her back,as photographed,then the gravity would be sideways and not downwards unless she was standing or sitting upright.

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Re: Sheila's Clean Hands
« Reply #96 on: January 15, 2016, 02:43:PM »
They mean the same thing, Sheila was haemorrhaging blood.  I know I am being pedantic, sorry, ;) but they do mean the same thing :)


Maggie, it appears that you're right.......................according to Surgery-About.com it means "bleeding of 'ANY' amount"...........................BUT, according to MedicineNet it means "bleeding or 'ABNORMAL FLOW'" and Merriam-Webster Medical describes it as a "COPIOUS discharge from blood vessels"................ya pays ya money and takes ya choice?


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« Reply #97 on: January 15, 2016, 02:45:PM »




If the girl was flat on her back,as photographed,then the gravity would be sideways and not downwards unless she was standing or sitting upright.

Maybe this helps?

Blood flowed down her neck and made its way between her right arm and right hand side of her chest, it then seeped through to her back.

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Re: Sheila's Clean Hands
« Reply #98 on: January 15, 2016, 03:06:PM »
Sheila still must have been in a sitting position for blood to run down near to her waist. If she'd have remained flat for the duration,there'd have been no blood on her back at all.

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Re: Sheila's Clean Hands
« Reply #99 on: January 15, 2016, 03:10:PM »
If you tried drinking a glass of water while lying flat on your back, where would the surplus go ?

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« Reply #100 on: January 15, 2016, 03:17:PM »
Sheila still must have been in a sitting position for blood to run down near to her waist. If she'd have remained flat for the duration,there'd have been no blood on her back at all.

I'd say it was extremely unlikely that there was a huge amount near her waist area. In fact, it's only described as "smears."
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Re: Sheila's Clean Hands
« Reply #101 on: January 15, 2016, 03:22:PM »
I'd say it was extremely unlikely that there was a huge amount near her waist area. In fact, it's only described as "smears."





" Clotted areas ?"

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Re: Sheila's Clean Hands
« Reply #102 on: January 15, 2016, 03:25:PM »




" Clotted areas ?"

Nope. It says nothing about being "clotted in areas" in the waist region.

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Re: Sheila's Clean Hands
« Reply #103 on: January 15, 2016, 03:25:PM »
With that in mind I'd say that Sheila had been sitting. As was June originally,so how come both were found flat,or in June's case,splayed out ?

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Re: Sheila's Clean Hands
« Reply #104 on: January 15, 2016, 03:29:PM »
With that in mind I'd say that Sheila had been sitting. As was June originally,so how come both were found flat,or in June's case,splayed out ?


How would blood from a neck wound pool in her arm pit -that's UNDER her arm- if she'd been sitting?