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Offline David1819

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Re: Sheila's Clean Hands
« Reply #75 on: January 14, 2016, 10:38:PM »
Aaah okay.

What I find rather silly is that they KM tested the Nightdress! I mean why! what else could it be  ???

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« Reply #76 on: January 15, 2016, 09:07:AM »
 The pattern of blood at the" rear "of the nightdress contained clots ? Was Sheila haemorrhaging ?

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« Reply #77 on: January 15, 2016, 12:31:PM »
The pattern of blood at the" rear "of the nightdress contained clots ? Was Sheila haemorrhaging ?


Where did that come from, Lookout?

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Re: Sheila's Clean Hands
« Reply #78 on: January 15, 2016, 12:33:PM »

Where did that come from, Lookout?

 Where indeed.
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« Reply #79 on: January 15, 2016, 12:36:PM »

Where did that come from, Lookout?





It's written on the report about her nightdress and its blood pattern.

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« Reply #81 on: January 15, 2016, 12:43:PM »




It's written on the report about her nightdress and its blood pattern.


I have no recall of blood clots EVER being mentioned and the only reference to menstruation was that she was in the early stages of.

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« Reply #82 on: January 15, 2016, 12:48:PM »

I have no recall of blood clots EVER being mentioned and the only reference to menstruation was that she was in the early stages of.





Unless you read these reports thoroughly even if they do appear undecipherable,I'm called a liar or have made something up. ::)

I mentioned about the clots simply because they didn't tally with her menstrual cycle.Just wondering where else they'd come from,that's all.

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« Reply #83 on: January 15, 2016, 12:52:PM »




Unless you read these reports thoroughly even if they do appear undecipherable,I'm called a liar or have made something up. ::)

I mentioned about the clots simply because they didn't tally with her menstrual cycle.Just wondering where else they'd come from,that's all.

OK. If you want to be pedantic, I can turn my one sentence post into two sentences, but I STILL don't recall seeing anything said about CLOTS.

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« Reply #84 on: January 15, 2016, 01:11:PM »
OK. If you want to be pedantic, I can turn my one sentence post into two sentences, but I STILL don't recall seeing anything said about CLOTS.

That's because there isn't anything that states there were 'clots' on her nightdress.
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« Reply #85 on: January 15, 2016, 01:13:PM »
OK. If you want to be pedantic, I can turn my one sentence post into two sentences, but I STILL don't recall seeing anything said about CLOTS.






Take a look at Hartley's post with the diagram,then tell me if you see the word clotted. Post 47 on this thread. Then you explain where,on her back,it would have come from.

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« Reply #86 on: January 15, 2016, 01:39:PM »





Take a look at Hartley's post with the diagram,then tell me if you see the word clotted. Post 47 on this thread. Then you explain where,on her back,it would have come from.

It's blood from the wounds in her neck which has soaked through to the back of her night dress and started to dry.

Nothing more, and nothing less.

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Re: Sheila's Clean Hands
« Reply #87 on: January 15, 2016, 01:44:PM »
The pattern of blood at the" rear "of the nightdress contained clots ? Was Sheila haemorrhaging ?


Whilst you ARE correct that it had nothing to do with menstruation, you're wrong in saying that "the rear of the nightdress contained clots." What it said was more along the lines of "Heavy staining. Clotted in areas" which is not, in my book, evidence of haemorrhage. MIGHT it be evidence though, of the length of time she'd been dead? I'm certain, that as a former nurse, you don't need me to tell you that blood DOES clot. Those for whom it doesn't have their own problems.

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Re: Sheila's Clean Hands
« Reply #88 on: January 15, 2016, 01:49:PM »

Whilst you ARE correct that it had nothing to do with menstruation, you're wrong in saying that "the rear of the nightdress contained clots." What it said was more along the lines of "Heavy staining. Clotted in areas" which is not, in my book, evidence of haemorrhage. MIGHT it be evidence though, of the length of time she'd been dead? I'm certain, that as a former nurse, you don't need me to tell you that blood DOES clot. Those for whom it doesn't have their own problems.
Bleeding... haemorrhaging means the same thing to me......

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« Reply #89 on: January 15, 2016, 01:52:PM »
Bleeding... haemorrhaging means the same thing to me......


They have entirely different meanings to me, Maggie. For instance, I wouldn't call for medical assistance just because someone was bleeding.