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Offline scipio_usmc

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Then please enlighten us, bozo - give us the benefit of your experience...

Since my finger bends INWARDS not outwards my finger sits inside the trigger guard when I fire a weapon.

If the trigger guard is touching the outside of my hand then I can't access the trigger.

If I have a gun aimed at me and I am trying to push the trigger like a telephone button then the trigger guard touches the left tip of my finger. 

If I have a gun upside down aimed at me to that I can pull the trigger with my thumb then my thumb is inside the trigger guard and no part of me is touching it.   

Maybe you have magic fingers that move in all directions like Plasticman's but an ordinary human does not. 
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Offline mike tesko

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Since my finger bends INWARDS not outwards my finger sits inside the trigger guard when I fire a weapon.

If the trigger guard is touching the outside of my hand then I can't access the trigger.

If I have a gun aimed at me and I am trying to push the trigger like a telephone button then the trigger guard touches the left tip of my finger. 

If I have a gun upside down aimed at me to that I can pull the trigger with my thumb then my thumb is inside the trigger guard and no part of me is touching it.   

Maybe you have magic fingers that move in all directions like Plasticman's but an ordinary human does not.

You are missing the point, bozo from over the pond...

(a) - In the remock of the theory that Sheila could have shot herself, with use of the anshuzt rifle (1) fitted with the parker hale silencer, and (2) with anshuzt, minus the silencer, model Amy Holland demonstrated how she was able to activate the trigger using her finger, not her thumb...

(b) - Since police brought the anshuzt rifle from the bedroom window to Sheila's body, and placed it upon her body, arranging the fingers of her right hand around or upon the trigger mechanism at the time they were stage managing the scene, and the loaded weapon discharged the fatal shot under the point of her chin, then you would realise that the muzzle of the rifle barrell was pointing toward her neck / chin, and that the impression on the top part of her right hand was caused at this time...

(c) - the mark on the top part of her right hand, provides a significant clue, to the circumstances of Sheila Caffells death, visible in this police photographic image. Police deliberately withheld it, so that defence counsel could not utilize its potential in support of Sheila having killed herself - now, because that photograph is now in the public domain, it has to be treated as fresh evidence which was not available to the defence or to the court which tried the matter in October 1986, or at appeal in 2002...
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Offline mike tesko

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The trigger guard touches the inside of the hand genius.  Someone who has the trigger guard against their outer hand can't pull a trigger.

Listen up bozo from over the pond, who said she pulled the trigger, her finger pushed the trigger...
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Offline mike tesko

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As usual your claims are little more than made up nonsense.  The marks are not from the trigger guard and even if they were it would not help establish she shot herself since the trigger guard against the outside of her hand would mean someone else was holding it.

Bozo from across the pond, your onto it, the police brought the anshuzt rifle from the window, and...
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Offline mike tesko

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Either you have entirely made up this nonsense of taking a photo of her in the bed and made up the claim police intercepted such photo or took a photo of an actor portraying her in a bed which someone commissioned.

As for the photos of Sheila none of them establish her blood was wet when the photos were taken and clearly her blood was dry when she was examined by Craig and long before because she was in full rigor when she was autopsied.

The bloodied impression on the top part of her right hand was not dried or coagulated, bozo from across the pond, nor was the bloodied handmark impression on the front lower part of her nightdress. Clearly these marks and impressions on her right hand and her nightdress had not occurred hours previously, look at the photo' bozo from across the pond, do your best to make up any lies you can think of, the fact is the marks are fresh, Essex police are basically fucked, they should all get ready to be taken to the gallows, evil scumbag officials...
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mike what happened to your informants?

Offline mike tesko

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mike what happened to your informants?

I am still in contact with my informants, and still receiving information from them, particularly of late regarding the mark impressions in blood on the top part of Sheila's right hand, made by the trigger guard, which the tell me was one of the key photographs withheld by the senior investigating officer, because evidence contained within it tended to favor the defence case at trial (1986), and the appeal (2002). What they are saying is that the mark impressions on the top part of Sheila's right hand was capable of supporting the defence case that Sheila had shot herself, albeit the true circumstances of that second fatal shot under the chin, were that it occurred after police took the anshuzt rifle which was leaning against the bedroom window, and had been there since around 7.15am, onward, and placed it on her body with a view of making it appear as though she had used the rifle on herself at the time she only had 1 shot in her neck. As her right hand was being positioned around the trigger mechanism, so that the top part of her right hand was resting against the trigger guard and they were trying to see if she could reach the trigger with her index finger, the weapon discharged the fatal bullet which killed her. This was how she ended up with 2 shots to the neck, not a solitary one...
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I am still in contact with my informants, and still receiving information from them, particularly of late regarding the mark impressions in blood on the top part of Sheila's right hand, made by the trigger guard, which the tell me was one of the key photographs withheld by the senior investigating officer, because evidence contained within it tended to favor the defence case at trial (1986), and the appeal (2002). What they are saying is that the mark impressions on the top part of Sheila's right hand was capable of supporting the defence case that Sheila had shot herself, albeit the true circumstances of that second fatal shot under the chin, were that it occurred after police took the anshuzt rifle which was leaning against the bedroom window, and had been there since around 7.15am, onward, and placed it on her body with a view of making it appear as though she had used the rifle on herself at the time she only had 1 shot in her neck. As her right hand was being positioned around the trigger mechanism, so that the top part of her right hand was resting against the trigger guard and they were trying to see if she could reach the trigger with her index finger, the weapon discharged the fatal bullet which killed her. This was how she ended up with 2 shots to the neck, not a solitary one...

Which mark?
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Offline mike tesko

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Which mark?

The curved mark between the wrist area and the fingers...
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You are missing the point, bozo from over the pond...

(a) - In the remock of the theory that Sheila could have shot herself, with use of the anshuzt rifle (1) fitted with the parker hale silencer, and (2) with anshuzt, minus the silencer, model Amy Holland demonstrated how she was able to activate the trigger using her finger, not her thumb...

I'm not missing anything you are changing the subject. Amy Holland didn't do anything that illustrated her hand touching the trigger guard.  In the meantime she was unable to reach the trigger while holding the gun in front of her neck at non-contact range at nearly a 90 degree angle (the way the first shot was delivered) and was unable to pull off a shot with the moderator at all unless she jammed it into her neck as tightly as she could,  was in a fetal like position and pushed the trigger like pushing a key on a keyboard.  Neither shot was fired like that though.

(b) - Since police brought the anshuzt rifle from the bedroom window to Sheila's body, and placed it upon her body, arranging the fingers of her right hand around or upon the trigger mechanism at the time they were stage managing the scene, and the loaded weapon discharged the fatal shot under the point of her chin, then you would realise that the muzzle of the rifle barrell was pointing toward her neck / chin, and that the impression on the top part of her right hand was caused at this time...

They didn't bring it from the window, it was sitting on her body when they entered.  They brought it to this location after they removed it from her body:



Jeepes wasn't even looking in the master bedroom window she was looking in the boxroom window per her own admission and the thing she saw which she said looked like a barrel of a rifle leaning against a window never moved.  Whatever it was wasn't the rifle. 

The rifle would not even be visible to those outside from the location it is in, in that photo. The person who took the photo said it was taken after the photos of her body with the gun on it were taken.

Your allegations are not supported by any evidence and clearly are wrong.

(c) - the mark on the top part of her right hand, provides a significant clue, to the circumstances of Sheila Caffells death, visible in this police photographic image. Police deliberately withheld it, so that defence counsel could not utilize its potential in support of Sheila having killed herself - now, because that photograph is now in the public domain, it has to be treated as fresh evidence which was not available to the defence or to the court which tried the matter in October 1986, or at appeal in 2002...

The photo wasn't withheld and doesn't reveal anything that suggests she fired a weapon you as usual just make up nonsense. 
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'Z' and 'Co', who have been in contact with me recently, have agreed that these mark impressions on the top of her right hand reveal significant clues regarding the relationship between the anshuzt rifle and Sheila Caffel during the tragedy. Since, in order for her to have been the principle shooter involved in the murder of the other four victims, the fingers of her hand, and her hand itself, had to be near the trigger guard, and the trigger of the gun. These marks, impressions, bruising, confirm that not only did she fire the gun, but by the standard of the marks and bruising on the top part of her right hand, it looks like she must have put up a ferocious fight to retain possession of the rifle at some stage of the incident...
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'Z' and 'Co', who have been in contact with me recently, have agreed that these mark impressions on the top of her right hand reveal significant clues regarding the relationship between the anshuzt rifle and Sheila Caffel during the tragedy. Since, in order for her to have been the principle shooter involved in the murder of the other four victims, the fingers of her hand, and her hand itself, had to be near the trigger guard, and the trigger of the gun. These marks, impressions, bruising, confirm that not only did she fire the gun, but by the standard of the marks and bruising on the top part of her right hand, it looks like she must have put up a ferocious fight to retain possession of the rifle at some stage of the incident...

Here is a woman firing a 525 she is a lefty so her hands are the opposite of how they would be for a right handed Sheila but note how her trigger hand is not touching the trigger guard:



Here is a guy holding it righty:





Their hands are wrapped around the narrow portion of the stock. Their index finger is inside the trigger guard on the trigger. The trigger guard is not touching their hands.
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Not everybody holds a rifle the same way. In the example you have posted I note the following detail is deliberately withheld, and the rifle in these pictures has a telescopic site fitted to the rifle giving it added weight, which caused the woman in these photographs to adopt the grip she adopted. You can't make comparisons like this without knowing whether or not the woman in the pictures is a professional shooter, or one who has lots of experience firing this type of gunIn addition, there is no 17 baffled Parker Hale silencer fitted to the end of the rifle barrel, which would increase the weight of the weapon, and its balance.  With weight of the silencer displaced on the end of the guns barrel, you cannot say with certainty, that this woman would have still held the rifle in the posed and adopted manner. Similarly, I note you didn't post any pictures of the same woman trying to shoot herself in the neck or under the point of the chin, and more importantly from my position, you never posted any pictures of this woman struggling to retain possession of this rifle, whilst somebody a lot taller and stronger than her, was try to wrench it from her - the grip at each of these 3 different stages would not be the same in each instance. We know that Sheila was involved in a struggle with one or more of the four victims she shot and killed, since there are supporting contact marks of sorts on her right forearm, which were almost certainly caused at the time Sheila was struggling or grappling with one or more of the two adult victims, at different times. The presence of the bloodied hand print on the front lower part of her nightdress was imprinted there in fresh blood. Now, I pose the following question for all the numpties in the guilty group to ponder upon, " WHOSE BLOOD WAS THIS BLOODIED HAND MARK ON THE FRONT LOWER PART OF SHEILA'S NIGHTDRESS MADE IN"?, and " AND WHOSE BLOODIED HABD MADE THAT MARK /IMPRESSION"?

You see if it was one of the other 4 victims blood, and it got there on Sheila's hand, coupled with the latest bruise blood marks from the rifles trigger case, together with all the other contact marks which are there for all to see on her right forearm, then of course that would be a compelling argument for the jury to come to the inevitable conclusion that there was contact between a victim or two, or three, or four, and evidence by a reliance upon the bruising and marked impressions upon the top part of her right hand, that proves that Sheila had made a determined effort to retain possession of that rifle at one time or another, rather than repel the rifle had it been pointed in her direction...

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Sheila would have gripped the rifle any old how as long as she had a stronghold. If it's not held the right and proper way it will leave a mark. There must have been undue force used as those rifles are only light and are solely used for vermin.

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Sheila would have gripped the rifle any old how as long as she had a stronghold. If it's not held the right and proper way it will leave a mark. There must have been undue force used as those rifles are only light and are solely used for vermin.

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