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Offline scipio_usmc

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Well that looks like a deliberate attempt to keep certain pieces from evidence from him and not an accident as some have claimed. That is pretty disgusting in my eyes.

Making a new Bamber case exhibit list of the items retained is hardly suspicious
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drh 22 was a bullet.


these are the kinds of lists that show documents exist but may have gone missing.

DRH/22 was the 29 bullets on the kitchen counter next to the telephone.  Most of them were expended in testing by Fletcher.

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I don't suppose those bullets were fingerprinted either,seeing as they'd been tipped up and obviously not how Jeremy left them.

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when they found the phone under the magazines ( which has no been disputed) did Barbara report that to the police and did they collect it?


can anyone read no. 73?

She reported it to police the next time they interviewed her after it happened.  The phone was being used at that point, it also is in her statement. They could have taken photos of it or collected it to use.  You would need to look at the trial evidence to see whether they showed the jury the actual phone or just a photo of it.
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Making a new Bamber case exhibit list of the items retained is hardly suspicious

it is when they in the note agree to destroy exhibits knowing that  they are being requested . In other words they know there is still an appeal pending/ in progress

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it is when they in the note agree to destroy exhibits knowing that  they are being requested . In other words they know there is still an appeal pending/ in progress

No exhibits were destroyed by police who knew they were being requested.  The police thought the appeal was complete in 1994.  They were unaware that the defense and Home Office were corresponding and that such meant the appeal was still ongoing.  A cop was told to get rid of the evidence that was not used by other side at trial to make space for exhibits from new cases. The evidence that was made such a big deal over- the blood samples was no big deal because the DNA testing was worthless and should not have even been done.  In any event, the extended family ended up willingly giving samples that was used to interpret the results of the worthless DNA testing. 

Pam Boutflour willingly gave her blood to help figure out if June's DNA was inside.  And Nevill's relatives voluntarily provided theirs to try to use to match his.  So much for the family having anything to hide. 

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No exhibits were destroyed by police who knew they were being requested.  The police thought the appeal was complete in 1994.  They were unaware that the defense and Home Office were corresponding and that such meant the appeal was still ongoing.  A cop was told to get rid of the evidence that was not used by other side at trial to make space for exhibits from new cases. The evidence that was made such a big deal over- the blood samples was no big deal because the DNA testing was worthless and should not have even been done.  In any event, the extended family ended up willingly giving samples that was used to interpret the results of the worthless DNA testing. 

Pam Boutflour willingly gave her blood to help figure out if June's DNA was inside.  And Nevill's relatives voluntarily provided theirs to try to use to match his.  So much for the family having anything to hide.

Do you mean to eliminate their blood or show the similarities . And if you read my post to you I made it clear about the families involvement - I was asking if you thought it correct that such a vital piece of evidence was handled in the way it was and accepted as evidence .

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There is clear evidence in the form of a small curved mark close to the base of Sheila's right index finger (Circled), which confirms that she activated the trigger mechanism of the anshuzt rifle with force, and repeatedly...
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There is clear evidence in the form of a small curved mark close to the base of Sheila's right index finger (Circled), which confirms that she activated the trigger mechanism of the anshuzt rifle with force, and repeatedly...

You circled an area behind the trigger. How does her finger get behind the trigger?

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There is clear evidence in the form of a small curved mark close to the base of Sheila's right index finger (Circled), which confirms that she activated the trigger mechanism of the anshuzt rifle with force, and repeatedly...

Mike have you ever seen any pictures of the insides of her hands ?

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You circled an area behind the trigger. How does her finger get behind the trigger?





You're forgetting that Sheila was a novice shooter,so any old how as long as it did the job. She may have known how to aim at a rabbit but shooting humans is a different ball game,especially when it's frenzied. How she held the rifle was irrelevant.

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Mike have you ever seen any pictures of the insides of her hands ?

Yes, black and white photocopies, her hands were covered in a dark substance which at the time I believed to be ink from the fingerprinting process, carried out at the scene, but the details of which were altered until after or during the commencement of the autopsy...
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Have you seen any document that states when her fingerprints were taken?