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Offline mike tesko

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He wrote SJ/1, because he did not even know DS Jones had a middle name, not even on Wednesday the 25th September 1991, when Cook made his COLP witness Statement, did Cook know Jones had a middle Christian name, he only knew him as 'STAN JONES', so with this in mind prey tell me exactly how Cook could possibly have marked the blank exhibit label that he attached to the silencer at the lab' on the 13th August 1985, using the exhibit reference SBJ/1?

He couldn't, and he didn't...
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Extracts from Cooks COLP witness statement dated 25th September 1991, will be appearing here in the next few seconds...
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Here is the evidence...
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What a complete shambles involving these different silencers and exhibit references, police can't even get basic facts right, or it seems tell the correct time....
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Cook could only have labelled silencer at lab' on the 13th August 1985, SJ/1, because he only knew DS Jones by the name "STAN JONES", even up to the time Cook made his COLP statement on 25th September 1991...
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He wrote SJ/1, because he did not even know DS Jones had a middle name, not even on Wednesday the 25th September 1991, when Cook made his COLP witness Statement, did Cook know Jones had a middle Christian name, he only knew him as 'STAN JONES', so with this in mind prey tell me exactly how Cook could possibly have marked the blank exhibit label that he attached to the silencer at the lab' on the 13th August 1985, using the exhibit reference SBJ/1?

He couldn't, and he didn't...

For the 50th time he learned about Jones' middle initial before he wrote the label.   He didn't know at the time he wrote in his pocketbook.  He planned to label it SJ/1 in his pocketbook.  He labeled it after that.  He labeled it SBJ/1 because Jones subsequently spoke to him before he labeled it and told him his full initials.  Since he labeled it SBJ/1 he wrote SBJ/1 on the Holab forms as well and Howard wrote SBJ/1 on her examination record. 

You just keep ignoring the evidence including what Cook told COLP.
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Not only that, but amidst all the controversy involving whether or not Cook had labelled the exhibit label SJ/1 as opposed to SBJ/1, how come like the COLP investigators pointed out to Cook in 1991 that there is no exhibit reference of SBJ/1 against the label he signed at the lab' on the 13th August 1985...

Do you get my drift?
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For the 50th time he learned about Jones' middle initial before he wrote the label.   He didn't know at the time he wrote in his pocketbook.  He planned to label it SJ/1 in his pocketbook.  He labeled it after that.  He labeled it SBJ/1 because Jones subsequently spoke to him before he labeled it and told him his full initials.  Since he labeled it SBJ/1 he wrote SBJ/1 on the Holab forms as well and Howard wrote SBJ/1 on her examination record. 

You just keep ignoring the evidence including what Cook told COLP.

How come then, bird brain, that DS Jones himself recorded all exhibits he ever seized or took possession of in any investigation he was ever involved in using only the index letters, SJ, as opposed to SBJ? Why would DS Jones change a habit of a lifetime and start calling exhibits by reference to index letters SBJ, when all his working life he has only used his initials SJ...

Stop being a prat, you know full well that what I am saying is true, and like I said, I don't tell lies, I leave that to other people...
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Here is the evidence...

I posted this evidence many times you simply don't know how to read:

"Looking at those forms and my pocket book I realise that at some stage I must have asked DS Jones for his full initials...the HOLAB reflects his full initials"

He wrote SJ/1 in his pocket book indiciating that is what he PLANNED to label it. HOWEVER, he spoke to Jones BEFORE he labeled it and learned his full initials and thus labeled it SBJ/1 which is why he wrote SBJ/1 on the HOLAB forms and because it was marked SBJ/1 that is what Howard wrote on her examination record.  Her COLP report attests to the fact it was marked SBJ/1 when she saw it on the 13th of August.

It is neither complicated nor difficult to comprehend if one actually has the desire to do so.  You clearly do not have such desire.
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How come then, bird brain, that DS Jones himself recorded all exhibits he ever seized or took possession of in any investigation he was ever involved in using only the index letters, SJ, as opposed to SBJ? Why would DS Jones change a habit of a lifetime and start calling exhibits by reference to index letters SBJ, when all his working life he has only used his initials SJ...

Stop being a prat, you know full well that what I am saying is true, and like I said, I don't tell lies, I leave that to other people...

I will ignore your grammatical mess as I eventually figured out what you were trying to say by ignoring 'that".  His practice was to use SBJ.  You simply made up that his practice was to use SJ. You would not have to make up things if the evidence was actually on your side thus in so doing you betray that your position is not supportable with real evidence.
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I posted this evidence many times you simply don't know how to read:

"Looking at those forms and my pocket book I realise that at some stage I must have asked DS Jones for his full initials...the HOLAB reflects his full initials"

He wrote SJ/1 in his pocket book indicating that is what he PLANNED to label it. HOWEVER, he spoke to Jones BEFORE he labeled it and learned his full initials and thus labeled it SBJ/1 which is why he wrote SBJ/1 on the HOLAB forms and because it was marked SBJ/1 that is what Howard wrote on her examination record.  Her COLP report attests to the fact it was marked SBJ/1 when she saw it on the 13th of August.

It is neither complicated nor difficult to comprehend if one actually has the desire to do so.  You clearly do not have such desire.

No, no, no...

Stop all the bull shit, Cook confirms in this COLP witness statement dated 25th September 1991, that even up to the present time (date he made this witness statement) Cook admits that he did not know that DS Jones had a middle name, thats what Cook said in September 1991, so how can he have known that DS Jones had a middle name on any other occasion prior to September 1991?  He couldn't, and he didn't, and whats more, all this nonsense about him labelling the silencers exhibit label SBJ/1 at the lab' on the 13th August 1985, yet both Cooks an Howards signatures do not appear on any exhibit label bearing that (SBJ/1) exhibit reference, so there it is, all exposed for what it amounts too, a fudged, dodgy piece of evidence, confirming that the silencer David Boutflour found at the scene was never SBJ/1, it could never have been SBJ/1 because Cook could only have labelled it SJ/1 at that time, or any other time prior to the 25th September 1985. This glaring anomaly never came to light previously because the court and everybody else was fooled into thinking and accepting that the silencer had always had the exhibit reference of DRB/1, when clearly that / this was not the case...
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I will ignore your grammatical mess as I eventually figured out what you were trying to say by ignoring 'that".  His practice was to use SBJ.  You simply made up that his practice was to use SJ. You would not have to make up things if the evidence was actually on your side thus in so doing you betray that your position is not supportable with real evidence.

I have got DS Jones other pocketbook entries pertaining to other investigations he was involved in, in all these other instances, any exhibit labelled or attributed to him are marked, SJ/1, SJ/2, SJ/3, and so on, and so forth, so there is the truth, all spelt out clearly, There would be no need for the exhibit reference of 'SJ/1' to be altered to SBJ/1, because as far as I am aware, there was no other witness producing an exhibit in this case, bearing the same 'SJ' references...
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I win, hands down, I did warn you that I had the evidence to support everything I was saying, but you kept on insisting that I was making things up, and that I was a liar - of course I am, but hey what does that make you?
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I will sleep soundly tonight, maybe have a few more surprises up my sleeve come the morning, but then again, I might not, no need to rush into things, better wait until your enemy hangs themselves with no prompting at all from me...

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No, no, no...

Stop all the bull shit, Cook confirms in this COLP witness statement dated 25th September 1991, that even up to the present time (date he made this witness statement) Cook admits that he did not know that DS Jones had a middle name, thats what Cook said in September 1991, so how can he have known that DS Jones had a middle name on any other occasion prior to September 1991?  He couldn't, and he didn't, and whats more, all this nonsense about him labelling the silencers exhibit label SBJ/1 at the lab' on the 13th August 1985, yet both Cooks an Howards signatures do not appear on any exhibit label bearing that (SBJ/1) exhibit reference, so there it is, all expose for what it amounts too, a fudged, dodgy piece of evidence, confirming that the silencer David Boutflour found at the scene was never SBJ/1, it could never have been SBJ/1 because Cook could only have labelled it SJ/1 at that time, or any other time prior to the 25th September 1985. This glaring anomaly never came to light previously because the court and everybody else was fooled into thinking and accepting that the silencer had always had the exhibit reference of DRB/1, when clearly that / this was not the case...

You are wasting your breath the evidence speaks for itself. That evidence is the HOLAB forms and examination record all filled out on Aug 13 describing the moderator as SBJ/1.  Furthermore other documents describing it as SBJ/1 up until it was finally changed to DB/1.

Moreover, Cook clearly told COLP that planned to label it SJ/1 because he didn't know Jones' middle name however Jones told him his full initials before he labeled it and thus he labeled it SBJ/1 and put SBJ/1 on the HOLAB forms.

You just keep falsely claiming Cook told COLP he labeled it SJ/1 though he didn't, in order to say that he would have to have said he put SJ/1 on the HOLAB forms but he doesn't.  He stated he put SBJ/1.

You are a broken record denying the obvious over and over again for nothing because we read it ourselves and it doesn't state what you claim.

No matter how many times you claim it says he labeled it SJ/1 when we read it, it will still state he labeled it SBJ/1. It is time too cut bait and try something else.





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