Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?

[Caroline]

Julie identified the bodies, and failed to mention anything. Apart from being more than a little cold, her failure to speak up actually delayed the investigation of JB. She lied by omission and assisted a murderer to the point that he nearly got away with it.

The fact that she later changed her story, voluntarily or not, doesn't wipe out her earlier action/inaction.

Clearly she made a deal to avoid being prosecuted. I maintain my opinion that she should have been charged as an accessory, or at the very least for perverting justice.

She certainly shouldn't have benefited financially and I'm not sure she should have been able to pursue her teaching career.

I don't see how anybody could see her in a favourable light.

Totally agree!

[Caroline]

It is often used against Jeremy about how he behaved at the funeral - but how about how about how she acted? her words on the night "I knew he had done it" and yet there she is supporting him and holding his arm ?

Now I don't agree with the analogy of behaviour because I do believe everyone acts differently etc etc , but if you are going to criticise JB then you have to apply that to her as well.

I do think her behaviour was deplorable but she didn't kill 5 members of her family they are separated in deplorability by the act.

[Adam]

This post just shows how biased you are. 

I just follow the evidence and common sense.

Supporters think Julie should have grassed on Jeremy at 8am on the massacre morning. She did it a month later for lots of good reasons. So what ?

[maggie]

She may well have been horrified and terrified. But with police, family and Jeremy all around,  a 20 year old woman is hardly likely to start accusing Jeremy at 8 am.

The relationship went into a steep decline afterwards and they soon spilt up. Julie approaching the police a month later.

Interesting that you are so clued up about the behaviour of a 20 year old woman. 
I didn't mention at 8 am. anywhere. I gave her a week but I'm inclined to think JMs behaviour was more about self interest if her story was true.
I love the excuses for Julie's behaviour under pressure but you know exactly how Jeremy should have behaved every step of the way. You're totally biased Adam, can't see the wood for the trees. Imo

[maggie]

I just follow the evidence and common sense.

Supporters think Julie should have grassed on Jeremy at 8am on the massacre morning. She did it a month later for lots of good reasons. So what ?

So what?

Her behaviour was unbelievable.

D'you think the extended family and all who loved that family thought 'so what'?

D'you believe Colin thought 'so what' about her behaviour. She could have alerted that family to what Jeremy was planning, saved his sons lives. 

We all make mistakes but that's one humdinger of a mistake.

[lookout]

Julie was nothing but a scheming so-and-so who was filled with so much venom she didn't know what to do for the best against damaging Jeremy,until her plan snowballed and blew up out of all proportion and because she'd already contacted the police,her next move was to quickly tell them about her own shortcomings. After that it was all plain sailing. That sense of relief that she must have felt of her own admission gave way to 32 pages of utter tripe. Jeremy was well rid of her.

[Adam]

Interesting that you are so clued up about the behaviour of a 20 year old woman. 
I didn't mention at 8 am. anywhere. I gave her a week but I'm inclined to think JMs behaviour was more about self interest if her story was true.
I love the excuses for Julie's behaviour under pressure but you know exactly how Jeremy should have behaved every step of the way. You're totally biased Adam, can't see the wood for the trees. Imo

So you think she should have gone to the police a week later.

Wasn't the funerals then ? Jeremy asking her to attend. Bit of an insensitive time to break ranks. It was an 'open and shut' case then.  Apart from a few suspicious relatives and police sniffing about. Which Julie would be unaware of.

I do believe he is guilty. By following the evidence. If you wish to call that bias, feel free.

Julie approaching the police may have been partly due to self interest. I created a thread on this a few days ago. That doesn't mean she lied.

[Adam]

So what?

Her behaviour was unbelievable.

D'you think the extended family and all who loved that family thought 'so what'?

D'you believe Colin thought 'so what' about her behaviour. She could have alerted that family to what Jeremy was planning, saved his sons lives. 

We all make mistakes but that's one humdinger of a mistake.

There are at least 14 reasons why it took her one month. I will re post my post from page 8.

[Adam]

Jeremy's supporters often criticise Julie for not going to the police straight away.

There are lots of reasons why she approached the police a month later-


She was Jeremy's girlfriend.

She loved Jeremy and said she was under his spell.

She was in shock.

She was afraid of what Jeremy may do if he found out.

She tried to deny it to herself that the man she loved was involved.

Jeremy had said that he had paid MM £2,000 to commit the massacre. Julie said she knew Jeremy did not have this money available. So she would have clung to the possibility that Jeremy was making false boasts. 

She was 20 years old. We all make wrong decisions when so young. 

Jeremy had said he was 'watertight' and it was an 'open and shut case'. He said Julie would not be believed.

She was afraid she would be implicating herself. Being aware of his hatred and resentment towards his family,  and previous plans.

While still in shock, she gave a statement early on. So was afraid that changing her statement days or weeks later may put her in trouble.

She was afraid she would not be believed. Making herself look stupid and getting in trouble with the police for making false claims.

She was caught in the eye of a hurricane. Police,  relatives and the media always around, funerals to attend. Jeremy getting police cars to pick her up, then whisking her off to Amsterdam the weekend after the massacre. 

She had no one to speak to at first. Being with Jeremy most of the time after the massacre. She did not want to attend the funeral or continuously go around with Jeremy & Brett. But was persuaded to by Jeremy.

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It is true she approached the police, (via Liz Rimmington) after they had spilt up. After finally getting to speak to other people she trusted.  She was hardly likely to approach the police while still Jeremy's girlfriend, was she ?

Jeremy said the relationship had been in decline for six months prior to the massacre. They were both young and living miles away from each other.  The massacre probably speeded up the ending of the relationship by a few weeks.  After Julie had come to terms with the massacre and cleared her head.

It is not conclusive about who jilted who. Although Jeremy has always weakly said Julie spoke to the police and testified because he jilted her. But he has never said scorned women are just as likely to tell the truth.

Speaking to the police a month later seems quite normal to me (see above). Making these claims months of years later, after moving in with or marrying Jeremy would have looked much worse.

She was brave in approaching the police. Jeremy had not been arrested and the silencer evidence had not come back from the lab. The police could have laughed her out of the station. Or charged her with wasting police time. Or both.

[lookout]

One word describes her-------------VINDICTIVE !

[maggie]

So you think she should have gone to the police a week later.

Wasn't the funerals then ? Jeremy asking her to attend. Bit of an insensitive time to break ranks. It was an 'open and shut' case then.  Apart from a few suspicious relatives and police sniffing about. Which Julie would be unaware of.

I do believe he is guilty. By following the evidence. If you wish to call that bias, feel free.

Julie approaching the police may have been partly due to self interest. I created a thread on this a few days ago. That doesn't mean she lied.

I love the fact you use the word 'sensitive' can't find any of that in her behaviour at all, anywhere!

I said you are biased toward Julie Mugford because you attack Jeremy Bamber for breathing but excuse Julie Mugford's crass behaviour and make every excuse for her?

Why? What is she to you?

[Jane]

Interesting that you are so clued up about the behaviour of a 20 year old woman. 
I didn't mention at 8 am. anywhere. I gave her a week but I'm inclined to think JMs behaviour was more about self interest if her story was true.
I love the excuses for Julie's behaviour under pressure but you know exactly how Jeremy should have behaved every step of the way. You're totally biased Adam, can't see the wood for the trees. Imo

Why have we become bound into this 8am thing? Why is it apparently so important and what has it to do with anything?

[Adam]

I love the fact you use the word 'sensitive' can't find any of that in her behaviour at all, anywhere!

I said you are biased toward Julie Mugford because you attack Jeremy Bamber for breathing but excuse Julie Mugford's crass behaviour and make every excuse for her?

Why? What is she to you?

Attack Bamber for breathing ? I have never done that.

Supporters and Bamber claim Julie is lying and back this up by saying she waited a month before approaching the police.
But there are at least 14 reasons why it took her month. All seems quite normal to me.

Waiting a month and then trying to frame an 'innocent' Bamber would be amazingly insensitive, vindictive, stupid, optimistic and brave.

[Jane]

So what?

Her behaviour was unbelievable.

D'you think the extended family and all who loved that family thought 'so what'?

D'you believe Colin thought 'so what' about her behaviour. She could have alerted that family to what Jeremy was planning, saved his sons lives. 

We all make mistakes but that's one humdinger of a mistake.

It's interesting, isn't it, that ALL here -but one- find Julie's behaviour deplorable in the extreme.

[maggie]

Attack Bamber for breathing ? I have never done that.

Supporters and Bamber claim Julie is lying and back this up by saying she waited a month before approaching the police.
But there are at least 14 reasons why it took her month. All seems quite normal to me.

Waiting a month and then trying to frame an 'innocent' Bamber would be amazingly insensitive, vindictive, stupid, optimistic and brave.

Its not only 'supporters' who think her behaviour suspect but whatever, you are blinkered and refuse to consider anything but your own fixed opinion.