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Offline maggie

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Re: An innocent Jeremy = an amazingly brave (and stupid) Julie:
« Reply #90 on: August 06, 2015, 11:30:PM »
Maybe they didn't have that sort of relationship. Anyway she spoke to five people so didn't speak to her mother. Or did she ?

Anyway it's up to her who she speaks to. As it happened it was five people, the police and the courts.
Of course it was up to her but that makes no difference to me I still say her behaviour was very strange.  You're quick enough to point out every move JB made but leap to Julie's defence at the slightest sign of perceived criticism. I am not accusing her of anything but still say her behaviour right through to the interview after the trial was difficult to understand, imo.

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Re: An innocent Jeremy = an amazingly brave (and stupid) Julie:
« Reply #92 on: August 06, 2015, 11:54:PM »
Of course it was up to her but that makes no difference to me I still say her behaviour was very strange.  You're quick enough to point out every move JB made but leap to Julie's defence at the slightest sign of perceived criticism. I am not accusing her of anything but still say her behaviour right through to the interview after the trial was difficult to understand, imo.

What is difficult to understand?

She loved Jeremy, wanted to be with him instead of visiting him in jail so she didn't rat him out.  Even after they broke up she only ratted him out after someone else got the ball rolling. It might have taken her far longer to do it on her own or she may never have done so.

She ratted him out, did a press story assuming it would result in her being left alone, did another story to correct the nonsense they posted and each time the story was in the press they bothered her again but she refused to comment she wanted to move on and be left alone.

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Re: An innocent Jeremy = an amazingly brave (and stupid) Julie:
« Reply #93 on: August 07, 2015, 11:46:AM »
What is difficult to understand?

She loved Jeremy, wanted to be with him instead of visiting him in jail so she didn't rat him out.  Even after they broke up she only ratted him out after someone else got the ball rolling. It might have taken her far longer to do it on her own or she may never have done so.

She ratted him out, did a press story assuming it would result in her being left alone, did another story to correct the nonsense they posted and each time the story was in the press they bothered her again but she refused to comment she wanted to move on and be left alone.
But there was no reason to smile so profusely when she had the blood of the twins on her hands.

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Re: An innocent Jeremy = an amazingly brave (and stupid) Julie:
« Reply #94 on: August 07, 2015, 11:53:AM »
But there was no reason to smile so profusely when she had the blood of the twins on her hands.


She showed no discretion and zero empathy. If she carried no guilt, no one would have expected her to slink away, but the way she behaved showed no respect for the victims or their family.

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Re: An innocent Jeremy = an amazingly brave (and stupid) Julie:
« Reply #95 on: August 07, 2015, 02:52:PM »
But there was no reason to smile so profusely when she had the blood of the twins on her hands.

She didn't have their blood on her hands.  Jeremy decided to kill them for money.  He knew it upset her he did so and lied telling her that M did it so he could disclaim being as cold-hearted as he was.

 
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Re: An innocent Jeremy = an amazingly brave (and stupid) Julie:
« Reply #96 on: August 07, 2015, 04:36:PM »
She didn't say no to receiving blood money though !!

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Re: An innocent Jeremy = an amazingly brave (and stupid) Julie:
« Reply #97 on: August 07, 2015, 05:18:PM »
She didn't say no to receiving blood money though !!

To the extent that he sold some of their property and used it to fund their food and lodgings that is true but only for a short while.  She left him before he got the bulk of his inheritance and in fact ended up helping stop him from getting it.
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Re: An innocent Jeremy = an amazingly brave (and stupid) Julie:
« Reply #98 on: August 07, 2015, 05:22:PM »
To the extent that he sold some of their property and used it to fund their food and lodgings that is true but only for a short while.  She left him before he got the bulk of his inheritance and in fact ended up helping stop him from getting it.






Yes,after she'd accepted her freebie holiday with spends.

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Re: An innocent Jeremy = an amazingly brave (and stupid) Julie:
« Reply #99 on: August 07, 2015, 05:26:PM »
Yes,after she'd accepted her freebie holiday with spends.

That still doesn't amount to their blood being on her hands.  What she has to live with is knowing that she could have thwarted him had she told people about his plans.  She said she didn't think he would really do it.  Had she told people what he was saying then he would not have been able to do it because then he would be blamed.  That is what she has pondered since. 

 
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Re: An innocent Jeremy = an amazingly brave (and stupid) Julie:
« Reply #100 on: August 07, 2015, 05:34:PM »
That still doesn't amount to their blood being on her hands.  What she has to live with is knowing that she could have thwarted him had she told people about his plans.  She said she didn't think he would really do it.  Had she told people what he was saying then he would not have been able to do it because then he would be blamed.  That is what she has pondered since. 

 







Where did she say "she didn't think he'd do it ?". Another of Aesops little jobbies ?

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Re: An innocent Jeremy = an amazingly brave (and stupid) Julie:
« Reply #101 on: August 07, 2015, 05:36:PM »
Where did she say "she didn't think he'd do it ?". Another of Aesops little jobbies ?

In her statements and at trial she said she didn't think he was serious and thought he was just blowing off steam. 
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Re: An innocent Jeremy = an amazingly brave (and stupid) Julie:
« Reply #102 on: August 07, 2015, 05:37:PM »
That still doesn't amount to their blood being on her hands.  What she has to live with is knowing that she could have thwarted him had she told people about his plans.  She said she didn't think he would really do it.  Had she told people what he was saying then he would not have been able to do it because then he would be blamed.  That is what she has pondered since. 

 
You're very good sometimes at stating the obvious making it look so profound..

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Re: An innocent Jeremy = an amazingly brave (and stupid) Julie:
« Reply #103 on: August 07, 2015, 05:40:PM »
You're very good sometimes at stating the obvious making it look so profound..

I stated the obvious to refute false claims being made about her having blood on her hands. 
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Re: An innocent Jeremy = an amazingly brave (and stupid) Julie:
« Reply #104 on: August 07, 2015, 05:44:PM »
I stated the obvious to refute false claims being made about her having blood on her hands.


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