Why did Julie tell five people before approaching the police ?

[Jane]

It has nothing to do with religion it has to do with human nature.

People who know someone is guilty but conceal their knowledge will often agonize over such.  They often drink, do drugs or something else to cope with their guilt.  Sometimes they will finally come forward after years because they can't take it anymore.  This has to do with the guilt of keeping a secret when that secret is out you no longer still agonize over the decision to keep it secret.  You no longer have to consider whether to continue to keep it a secret or not.   

Confession is about recognizing your behavior was wrong, doing penance for it and pledging you will strive not to do it again.  You are not absolved simply because you told a priest.  You have to actually be sorry and say you will try not to do it again. If you just go confess the same sin over and over again without any earnest effort to change your ways it amounts to nothing.

During confession we say the Act of Contrition:

"O my God I am heartily sorry for having offended thee, and I detest all my sins because of your just            punishments, but most of all because they offend you, my God, who are all good and deserving of all my love. I firmly resolve, with the help of your grace, to sin no more and to avoid the near occasion of sin."

Scipio, thank-you. I can see that the truly contrite might feel that their sins have been forgiven but even God can't forgive crimes.

[lookout]

And lead us not into Thames Station---------------

[Steve_uk]

And lead us not into Thames Station---------------

or deliver _us from evil..

[lookout]

or deliver _us from evil..

 

[maggie]

Timing is crucial . So I agree . In her statement she says she knew he had done it on the night - so she could have stopped him very nearly getting away with it. I don't believe she was frightened - she does not come across as a shrinking violet.

Don't you think it was strange if she wasn't frightened of him if she knew what he was capable of?  Shrinking violet or not think anyone with any common sense would realise he was an extremely dangerous and violent man who could turn on you at any moment.  No thanks, I would have been off fast as I could.

[Caroline]

Don't you think it was strange if she wasn't frightened of him if she knew what he was capable of?  Shrinking violet or not think anyone with any common sense would realise he was an extremely dangerous and violent man who could turn on you at any moment.  No thanks, I would have been off fast as I could.

Well, according to her, she only really knew 'after' everyone was dead. I guess she must have considered how it would look if something happened to her because it would be highly suspicious as far as Jeremy was concerned. 

[Alias]

or deliver _us from evil..

 

[scipio_usmc]

Don't you think it was strange if she wasn't frightened of him if she knew what he was capable of?  Shrinking violet or not think anyone with any common sense would realise he was an extremely dangerous and violent man who could turn on you at any moment.  No thanks, I would have been off fast as I could.

Running away could make one even more of a target plus he told her about a hitman to give her some added fear.

In any event she didn't run out of a mix of fear and love it wasn't all fear. Some lovers,mothers, and other friends or family have helped dispose of bodies and do all sorts of things to protect their loved ones who did wrong. Love is a funny thing.

[Adam]

yes of course she did.

And if JB is innocent there are still  possibilities - for example when JB dumped her she was making up stories ( such as the hitman) for attention and then Liz dumped her in it . Which fell right into the laps of the police trying to do a U turn. The timings and dates of them changing stance and her being pushed into going to the police all seem a little convenient.

When did Bamber dump Julie ?

Was it when he was whisking her around the country and to Amsterdam. Or after he phoned her at 3am and 5am.

The relationship was coming to a close pre massacre Bamber testified. The massacre speeded things up. Julie not wanting to go around with Bamber and Brett so much. But being persuaded to.

Bamber said he wanted to live his own life. Julie seemed fine with that and Bamber had even agreed to help her move.

[Adam]

Hartley, I find it very difficult to see that what she did was any less bad -in fact I think it was worse- than what Maxine Carr was imprisoned for.

Did Maxine Carr withhold information or did she volunteer information ?

Julie volunteered information, created a WS and testified. The first month she didn't, but there are lots of reasons why, thread already created.

[Adam]

Just read up on it.

Maxine Carr gave a false alibi. Julie didn't. In fact didn't Julie say Jeremy rang her at 3am in her first WS ? Which did Jeremy no favours.

Maxine Carr was arrested and eventually spoke. Julie was not arrested and approached the police. She also gave information about another crime, the caravan break in,which the police knew nothing about.

[lookout]

Because of some stupid theory surrounding Huntley's conviction,which beggars belief,it sets a precedent for all those who are CLEARLY guilty,to question their own guilt.
Apparently the theory is that it wasn't Huntley,but some American serviceman. Who starts these theories,David Icke ?

[Jane]

Because of some stupid theory surrounding Huntley's conviction,which beggars belief,it sets a precedent for all those who are CLEARLY guilty,to question their own guilt.
Apparently the theory is that it wasn't Huntley,but some American serviceman. Who starts these theories,David Icke ?

Maxine Carr may NOT have told the truth in the beginning -she wasn't even there when the crime occurred and had no idea what he was planning- but she obviously went with what Huntley told her had occurred -just as Julie, who KNEW what Jeremy had been planning, repeated what Jeremy allegedly told her.

[guest2181]

Just read up on it.

Maxine Carr gave a false alibi. Julie didn't. In fact didn't Julie say Jeremy rang her at 3am in her first WS ? Which did Jeremy no favours.

Maxine Carr was arrested and eventually spoke. Julie was not arrested and approached the police. She also gave information about another crime, the caravan break in,which the police knew nothing about.

Julie identified the bodies, and failed to mention anything. Apart from being more than a little cold, her failure to speak up actually delayed the investigation of JB. She lied by omission and assisted a murderer to the point that he nearly got away with it.

The fact that she later changed her story, voluntarily or not, doesn't wipe out her earlier action/inaction.

Clearly she made a deal to avoid being prosecuted. I maintain my opinion that she should have been charged as an accessory, or at the very least for perverting justice.

She certainly shouldn't have benefited financially and I'm not sure she should have been able to pursue her teaching career.

I don't see how anybody could see her in a favourable light.

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That I can agree with,Hartley. June must have seen through her to have called her a harlot and a loose woman ( that was without knowing her ! )