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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #90 on: June 07, 2015, 05:12:PM »
Forgive us for not having our OWN views  ::)

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #91 on: June 07, 2015, 05:19:PM »
I don't understand most people who actively set out to distort.  I suppose some hate the police so much that they want to insist the police always lie and distort but it is hard to see what motivates others. TI suppose some like being part of an effort- but they could channel such into a real effort for someone where there is actual evidence of innocence, and some seek out attention- I am convinced that Mike is trying to garner attention with his claims of being so intimately involved including claiming to have seen bombshell photos.  He uses such claims and claims of possessing evidence no one else does to attain minor celebrity status. Most of the campaign team are not identified anywhere so don't get notoriety so their exact angle is a mystery.
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yes they are there is a link on the website - meet the campaign team - and all their fields of expertise is listed.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #92 on: June 07, 2015, 05:22:PM »
The Sun is saying Brett Collins contacted them. Collins had contacts with The Sun.

It is true that Brett was hanging around Jeremy at the time. And attended the meeting with Fielder.

If The Sun or Brett establishes that Jeremy/Brett made the first contact, then that's it. There would be only one reason why Jeremy/Brett would make the first move and request a meeting. Who needs a tape recorder ?

Brett disappeared as quickly as he arrived after Jeremy got arrested. He wouldn't lie for Jeremy. What a pity he is not about, so many questions for him.
I do wonder how Brett would have had contacts of any worth with the Sun, he was a New Zealander over in the UK on holiday..... how did that work?

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #93 on: June 07, 2015, 05:30:PM »
I do wonder how Brett would have had contacts of any worth with the Sun, he was a New Zealander over in the UK on holiday..... how did that work?

Maggie I did wonder about that I have only read it on here from some posts in 2011.  I am sure Adam has a sauce he usually does :)

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #94 on: June 07, 2015, 05:32:PM »
Maggie I did wonder about that I have only read it on here from some posts in 2011.  I am sure Adam has a sauce he usually does :)
Think Adam has plenty of sauce, suse. :D  Have heard it on several occasions but not sure where it comes from.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #95 on: June 07, 2015, 05:38:PM »
There is no proof.

All supporters can do is claim the evidence is wrong and mention previous cases.

you dont need proof to prove a proven liar is a liar its already been proved once somone has been proved to have lied before the burden is on them to prove there telling the truth.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #96 on: June 07, 2015, 05:41:PM »
whats that got to do with anything it was feilder who made it up in the first place they just reprinted his lies.

Who said Fielder made it up?
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #97 on: June 07, 2015, 05:43:PM »
I do wonder how Brett would have had contacts of any worth with the Sun, he was a New Zealander over in the UK on holiday..... how did that work?

because when Jeremy was arrested the first time, Brett spoke to Fielder.
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #98 on: June 07, 2015, 05:44:PM »
you dont need proof to prove a proven liar is a liar its already been proved once somone has been proved to have lied before the burden is on them to prove there telling the truth.

Just like Jeremy Bamber.
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #99 on: June 07, 2015, 05:46:PM »
Who said Fielder made it up?
  Fielder wrote the "Tart of Gib" story which alleged that she was an ex prostitute, ran an escort agency and was married to a drug peddler. All of this was lies invented by Fielder, it's not even in dispute.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #100 on: June 07, 2015, 05:47:PM »
Who said Fielder made it up?

have you had a read of the opening post in full.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #101 on: June 07, 2015, 05:47:PM »
because when Jeremy was arrested the first time, Brett spoke to Fielder.
Oh, OK thanks for that Caroline.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #102 on: June 07, 2015, 05:48:PM »
   We know that the allegation is that Jeremy used the same words to describe the pictures to Fielder as he had to Colin. This proves nothing at all though. Colin himself uses the same words to describe the pictures that he took possession of from jeremy in his statement of 24th September: "I think I would describe these slides as "soft pornography" as they were quite explicit in detail"
   Collins, Mugford, EP... lots of people would have or could have found out about the existence of the photos. They were not the best kept secret were they?
   The Sun and Fielder would not have had to rely on Bamber as the source for the existence of these photos and the description used by Fielder was also the same as Colin described them himself.
   Fielder has previously been shown to have reported that an innocent witness to a shooting was an ex prostitute who ran an escort agency and was married to a drug peddler. All of this was lies in order to discredit an inconvenient witness on behalf of the MOD and police. Or as Adam would put it "the editor will have made sure the story was watertight".
   He has been shown to be a lying propagandist for vested interests but you cling to the belief that perhaps he did some proper reporting on his weekends off ::)

The only propagandist around here is YOU gringo. Some people here will fall for your little distraction, some already realise Jeremy tried to sell the pictures although they won't admit it and the rest of us will continue to dismiss your distraction from the facts as desperate.  Jeremy tried to sell pictures of his dead sister - and nothing you say will change that!
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #103 on: June 07, 2015, 05:51:PM »
  Fielder wrote the "Tart of Gib" story which alleged that she was an ex prostitute, ran an escort agency and was married to a drug peddler. All of this was lies invented by Fielder, it's not even in dispute.

Oh I think it is, you said yourself that he was working on behalf of the authorities!!
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #104 on: June 07, 2015, 05:53:PM »
have you had a read of the opening post in full.

I tried but it turned into 'blah, blah, blah' - I guess I can see through what gringo is trying to do and it just doesn't wash. Bamber tried to sell pictures of his dead sister - FACT!
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