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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #255 on: May 22, 2015, 06:46:PM »
But he didn't kill her or try to sell her pictures to The Sun afterwards, you can't get worse than that.

There are so many things Jeremy is supposed to have done, which put him in a bad light, but more than anything paints a picture of the most unintelligent man on Earth!
He has just killed his whole family and stands outside and says to the police that he doesn´t like his sister that much - then he goes on to sell nude photos of her. He must have been seriously bonkers!
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« Reply #256 on: May 22, 2015, 06:47:PM »








Susan,if the pics found their way into Junes bureau,then she would have seen them.

Sounds as if June had been intimidated by Sheila's way of life,and Sheila had enjoyed tormenting her mother by her actions and took delight in being as unGodly as she could.

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« Reply #257 on: May 22, 2015, 06:48:PM »
There are so many things Jeremy is supposed to have done, which put him in a bad light, but more than anything paints a picture of the most unintelligent man on Earth!
He has just killed his whole family and stands outside and says to the police that he didn´t like his sister that much - then he goes on to sell nude photos of her. He must have been seriously bonkers!

Not the most unintelligent, just VERY arrogant.
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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #258 on: May 22, 2015, 06:48:PM »





They wouldn't have been in the paper anyway-----------not " porny " ones.

Whether or not they'd have been published isn't the question, Lookout. The point is that this poor dead girl's own brother saw nothing wrong with offering them for sale.

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« Reply #259 on: May 22, 2015, 06:48:PM »
But he didn't kill her or try to sell her pictures to The Sun afterwards, you can't get worse than that.

It would be extremely scummy to sell nude pictures of family members even if you were not the one who killed them. The same people who excuse him of the murders excuse him of all wrong doing always either trying to say he didn't do the other bad things either or deflecting by attacking others instead. It seems that a big portion of their case of his innocence rests on their perceived notion of his purity and virtue as opposed to relying on the evidence.
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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #260 on: May 22, 2015, 06:50:PM »






Susan,if the pics found their way into Junes bureau,then she would have seen them.

Sounds as if June had been intimidated by Sheila's way of life,and Sheila had enjoyed tormenting her mother by her actions and took delight in being as unGodly as she could.

You're avoiding the question Lookout. I think you know what he did was despicable but for whatever reason you can't admit it. There is no other word to describe what he did.
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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #261 on: May 22, 2015, 06:54:PM »
You're avoiding the question Lookout. I think you know what he did was despicable but for whatever reason you can't admit it. There is no other word to describe what he did.

Her case of Jeremy's innocence rests upon the belief Jeremy was virtuous while Sheila was a wreck so Sheila must have done it.  Anything that undercuts his virtue threatens the foundation of her argument.  If she actually looked at the guilt issue in the context of the evidence instead than his ill deeds would not matter so much one way or the other.  But the stand she decided to take requires her to defend his reputation at every turn.
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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #262 on: May 22, 2015, 06:55:PM »
It would be extremely scummy to sell nude pictures of family members even if you were not the one who killed them. The same people who excuse him of the murders excuse him of all wrong doing always either trying to say he didn't do the other bad things either or deflecting by attacking others instead. It seems that a big portion of their case of his innocence rests on their perceived notion of his purity and virtue as opposed to relying on the evidence.

The story was actually published and Jeremy hasn't denied trying to sell the pictures, neither has Brett Collins. He described them in the same way to both Colin and the reporter - there is no doubt that he did it and yet people are still trying to make excuses! Unbelievable!  ;D ;D
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« Reply #263 on: May 22, 2015, 06:58:PM »
The story was actually published and Jeremy hasn't denied trying to sell the pictures, neither has Brett Collins. He described them in the same way to both Colin and the reporter - there is no doubt that he did it and yet people are still trying to make excuses! Unbelievable!  ;D ;D

You can ask Jeremy about it, Caroline.

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« Reply #264 on: May 22, 2015, 06:59:PM »
You're avoiding the question Lookout. I think you know what he did was despicable but for whatever reason you can't admit it. There is no other word to describe what he did.






No,to be perfectly honest,I can't understand the big deal. I'd have been incensed if he had sold them,but he DIDN'T. There's one heck of a difference,as NO damage has been done and nobody is any the wiser.
What about the intimate pics that were first published about the deceased ?? Doesn't anyone find that objectionable,or is it only me ?

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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #265 on: May 22, 2015, 06:59:PM »
Colin describes in his book an incidence where June came driving out into the field - both Colin and Sheila were naked.
I am not sure if this has anything to do with the photos, but this particular day was the day after Sheila had had a provoked abortion.
I can see where June was coming from with her anger that day, I have to say. Sheila was very young - day after abortion, and he was all over her right away.  8)

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Just looked in the book and Colin states he remembers taking the photo's of Sheila right at the beginning of their relationship so it would appear they were before June found them naked in the fields not one hundred percent but it appears like that.

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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #266 on: May 22, 2015, 07:01:PM »
The story was actually published and Jeremy hasn't denied trying to sell the pictures, neither has Brett Collins. He described them in the same way to both Colin and the reporter - there is no doubt that he did it and yet people are still trying to make excuses! Unbelievable!  ;D ;D



Strange that whilst he was prepared to sue Kerry Daines(s) for calling him a psychopath, has has not been known to take the "Sun" to task for saying that he attempted to flog them porny pics of his dead sister.

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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #267 on: May 22, 2015, 07:04:PM »
You can ask Jeremy about it, Caroline.

Can I? But I already did.
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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #268 on: May 22, 2015, 07:04:PM »





No,to be perfectly honest,I can't understand the big deal. I'd have been incensed if he had sold them,but he DIDN'T. There's one heck of a difference,as NO damage has been done and nobody is any the wiser.
What about the intimate pics that were first published about the deceased ?? Doesn't anyone find that objectionable,or is it only me ?


Where would be the difference in the mind set of Jeremy TRYING to sell the pictures and the mind set of Jeremy when his offer was refused?

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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #269 on: May 22, 2015, 07:05:PM »





No,to be perfectly honest,I can't understand the big deal. I'd have been incensed if he had sold them,but he DIDN'T. There's one heck of a difference,as NO damage has been done and nobody is any the wiser.
What about the intimate pics that were first published about the deceased ?? Doesn't anyone find that objectionable,or is it only me ?

It wasn't his choice!! They didn't want them. It's not like he changed his mind, THEY didn't want them. I don't get the way you think - I just don't!
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