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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #240 on: May 22, 2015, 06:12:PM »





I personally thought it was disgusting that CC would take nude pics of Sheila in the fields where people were working and the grounds of WHF to boot. Knowing full well that Sheila had once been caught by her mother in the same field.That was courting trouble, besides the man having little or no respect for his wife.  No wonder June must have been furious when she saw them. I would have been,too.
What a horrible thing to do. What did he intend doing with them,do we know ?

But not that Jeremy tried to sell pictures of the sister he murdered? It's a little rich to talk about 'respect' under the circumstances. We know what Jeremy intended to do - that's more to the point, you can't pass the buck onto Colin after what Jeremy tried to do.
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« Reply #241 on: May 22, 2015, 06:16:PM »
But not that Jeremy tried to sell pictures of the sister he murdered? It's a little rich to talk about 'respect' under the circumstances. We know what Jeremy intended to do - that's more to the point, you can't pass the buck onto Colin after what Jeremy tried to do.






The fact of the matter was that he DIDN'T sell them,so no harm done ?

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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #242 on: May 22, 2015, 06:17:PM »





I personally thought it was disgusting that CC would take nude pics of Sheila in the fields where people were working and the grounds of WHF to boot. Knowing full well that Sheila had once been caught by her mother in the same field.That was courting trouble, besides the man having little or no respect for his wife.  No wonder June must have been furious when she saw them. I would have been,too.
What a horrible thing to do. What did he intend doing with them,do we know ?


C'mon Lookout. They were adults. There's the suggestion here that Sheila had no choice in this. She was perfectly entitled to say no had she not approved OR felt it improper/inappropriate. The chances were that they were involved in an erotic game to which a hint of danger/naughtiness added extra frisson. The pictures would probably been for nothing more than their own "delectation."

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« Reply #243 on: May 22, 2015, 06:18:PM »





The fact of the matter was that he DIDN'T sell them,so no harm done ?

That's not the fact of the matter at all - not even close. The Sun didn't want them but his intention to sell them shows that he had no care or consideration for his dead sister. His remarks about his parents show that they too meant nothing - despicable!
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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #244 on: May 22, 2015, 06:21:PM »





The fact of the matter was that he DIDN'T sell them,so no harm done ?


So you don't think it says anything about Jeremy's character that he
may have been happy with the idea of the nation being shown porny pictures of his dead sister which, but for him, would have remained unseen?

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« Reply #245 on: May 22, 2015, 06:22:PM »

C'mon Lookout. They were adults. There's the suggestion here that Sheila had no choice in this. She was perfectly entitled to say no had she not approved OR felt it improper/inappropriate. The chances were that they were involved in an erotic game to which a hint of danger/naughtiness added extra frisson. The pictures would probably been for nothing more than their own "delectation."






So you don't think that Sheila was manipulated into carrying out these disrespectful poses ?
Not forgetting that she was a girl who was easily led ?? Allegedly.

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« Reply #246 on: May 22, 2015, 06:27:PM »





So you don't think that Sheila was manipulated into carrying out these disrespectful poses ?
Not forgetting that she was a girl who was easily led ?? Allegedly.

She obviously consented to the pictures, she didn't get a chance to consent to them being sold because she was dead. You wouldn't be trying to deflect the FACT that Jeremy tried to sell the pictures to The Sun and try to play down the magnitude of such a vile act would you? You don't think what he did was disgusting?
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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #247 on: May 22, 2015, 06:29:PM »
So you don't think that Sheila was manipulated into carrying out these disrespectful poses ?
Not forgetting that she was a girl who was easily led ?? Allegedly.

Some women are exhibitionist, so who knows and more importantly who cares.  You seem to forget about your morals anytime it comes to Jeremy and just attack everyone else except the guy who clearly murdered everyone.  Not only do you close your eyes to such you close your eyes to anything distasteful he did. That is the point people keep making here and you keep stoking the fire.
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« Reply #248 on: May 22, 2015, 06:33:PM »
Some women are exhibitionist, so who knows and more importantly who cares.  You seem to forget about your morals anytime it comes to Jeremy and just attack everyone else except the guy who clearly murdered everyone.  Not only do you close your eyes to such you close your eyes to anything distasteful he did. That is the point people keep making here and you keep stoking the fire.

I totally agree, it's a complete deflection from the point at issue. If Sheila consented to such pictures, so what? She didn't consent to them being sold, nor to losing her life and the lives of her children!!
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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #249 on: May 22, 2015, 06:34:PM »





So you don't think that Sheila was manipulated into carrying out these disrespectful poses ?
Not forgetting that she was a girl who was easily led ?? Allegedly.

I believe there was once a suggestion here about her alleged promiscuity.

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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #250 on: May 22, 2015, 06:35:PM »





I personally thought it was disgusting that CC would take nude pics of Sheila in the fields where people were working and the grounds of WHF to boot. Knowing full well that Sheila had once been caught by her mother in the same field.That was courting trouble, besides the man having little or no respect for his wife.  No wonder June must have been furious when she saw them. I would have been,too.
What a horrible thing to do. What did he intend doing with them,do we know ?

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Colin took the photo's at the beginning of their relationship and it was meant to remain between them Sheila wanted to be a model and Colin an artist so I think this is why the pics came about nothing vulgar or dirty just lovely pictures of the woman he loved.  Now whether June ever saw them or not I just don't know Jeremy certainly saw them not sure if Colin took these away to destroy them it is a little difficult to understand which photo's he did take.  Very sad state of affairs

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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #251 on: May 22, 2015, 06:37:PM »
Colin describes in his book an incidence where June came driving out into the field - both Colin and Sheila were naked.
I am not sure if this has anything to do with the photos, but this particular day was the day after Sheila had had a provoked abortion.
I can see where June was coming from with her anger that day, I have to say. Sheila was very young - day after abortion, and he was all over her right away.  8)

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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #252 on: May 22, 2015, 06:39:PM »

So you don't think it says anything about Jeremy's character that he
may have been happy with the idea of the nation being shown porny pictures of his dead sister which, but for him, would have remained unseen?






They wouldn't have been in the paper anyway-----------not " porny " ones.

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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #253 on: May 22, 2015, 06:40:PM »
Colin describes in his book an incidence where June came driving out into the field - both Colin and Sheila were naked.
I am not sure if this has anything to do with the photos, but this particular day was the day after Sheila had had a provoked abortion.
I can see where June was coming from with her anger that day, I have to say. Sheila was very young - day after abortion, and he was all over her right away.  8)

But he didn't kill her or try to sell her pictures to The Sun afterwards, you can't get worse than that.
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Re: Familiar Portrait?
« Reply #254 on: May 22, 2015, 06:42:PM »





They wouldn't have been in the paper anyway-----------not " porny " ones.

You can't see that the action of trying to sell them is completely disrespectful and well ..... 'evil almost beyond belief?'
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