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Offline maggie

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1005 on: May 28, 2015, 01:02:PM »
Colin's book isn't the easiest read but it is interesting to learn how he came to believe Jeremy guilty. It wasn't an overnight thing. He wasn't influenced by the relatives, it was things that Jeremy did/said that he put together - the selling of the photographs being one of them.

I suspect the notion that they were close, came from here but interestingly, Colin wasn't even aware that Jeremy had been adopted and Jeremy wasn't even sure of Colin's surname.

Another interesting point which is in one of the statements and in the book. Colin said that Sheila wasn't happy about Jeremy coming to the party on the Saturday before the murders and that it was the first time that Jeremy had been to one. I wonder if it's just coincidence that he chose that weekend to attend one of Colin's parties for the first time?
It surprised me as well that Colin didn't know Jeremy had been adopted as well, I find that really difficult to believe and in the same vein how could Jeremy not have known Sheila's married name??  I really do need to read the book to judge properly for myself, I thin the story of the robin and the windows put me off as much as anything..... poor Colin.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1006 on: May 28, 2015, 01:03:PM »
In order to stand by Jeremy, you slag everyone else off and make derogatory comments about the victims! Whatever passed between Colin and Sheila - he lost his two children!! Slagging off the only real victim doesn't make Jeremy sound any more innocent Lookout.

Supposed to be a rule that the relatives aren't attacked here......Now I can understand people making comments about AE or RB - WITHIN REASON - but Colin is by any stretch of the imagination innocent. As you say he lost his two children.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1007 on: May 28, 2015, 01:04:PM »
My argument has ALWAYS been,that if he'd been anything of a husband,he'd have gone out of his way to help Sheila. After all,there was money at the back of her in her parents, who would NOT have begrudged a halfpenny towards helping their daughter,.
CC could have done MORE to have helped her than he did,instead of turning his back on her,which IMO is unforgiveable---------------------so it's his conscience speaking,nothing else.

Shooting her dead didn't help her Lookout - It shows Colin (unlike Jeremy) wasn't interested in the Bambers money. Just as well he got out when he did or we might have been looking at 6 murder victims!!
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1008 on: May 28, 2015, 01:04:PM »
In order to stand by Jeremy, you slag everyone else off and make derogatory comments about the victims! Whatever passed between Colin and Sheila - he lost his two children!! Slagging off the only real victim doesn't make Jeremy sound any more innocent Lookout.





It doesn't make Jeremy any more guilty either.
It's these type of background " checks " that go toward the cause of unrest in a household,and its effects upon who I say was the shooter. Like it or not,but Jeremy is also a victim.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1009 on: May 28, 2015, 01:06:PM »
It surprised me as well that Colin didn't know Jeremy had been adopted as well, I find that really difficult to believe and in the same vein how could Jeremy not have known Sheila's married name??  I really do need to read the book to judge properly for myself, I thin the story of the robin and the windows put me off as much as anything..... poor Colin.

Yes, there are times when you can't help rolling your eyes but, Colin believes all that stuff and if it helps him get through, I guess it's not all bad. Does make the book a bit of a pain though - but still worth a read.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1010 on: May 28, 2015, 01:08:PM »
Am I not permitted to give MY support now,or what ?

I doubt anyone could stop you Lookout but slagging off Colin doesn't make Jeremy seem or look any more innocent.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1011 on: May 28, 2015, 01:09:PM »
I think you're wrong, but you still didn't answer the questions. But then again, by not answering - it shows that you have no excuse for that Jeremy did.

what qustion im just making an obervation.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1012 on: May 28, 2015, 01:09:PM »
You may or may not be right, scipio, I have no idea, we don't even know whether Jeremy and Brett are still in contact or not.

I don't think they are Maggie.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1013 on: May 28, 2015, 01:10:PM »




It doesn't make Jeremy any more guilty either.
It's these type of background " checks " that go toward the cause of unrest in a household,and its effects upon who I say was the shooter. Like it or not,but Jeremy is also a victim.

Selling pictures of his dead sister does make him look more guilty! Jeremy is a victim, he's a victim of himself.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1014 on: May 28, 2015, 01:12:PM »
it does make him more guilty if i did it i cant deny that.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1015 on: May 28, 2015, 01:12:PM »
what qustion im just making an obervation.

The questions I asked below.

I'm not sure what point you're making? Are you suggesting that Colin is lying? Colin is quite a spiritual, non-judgemental person. I can see how he found it easy to forgive and perhaps shoulder some of the blame. However, you didn't answer my questions, so I will ask again;

Why do you imagine he shouldn't have been concerned about her brother trying to sell such pictures?

If it were you, would you not think that was a vile thing to do?
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1016 on: May 28, 2015, 01:13:PM »
A victim of a dreadful MOJ.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1017 on: May 28, 2015, 01:13:PM »
Selling pictures of his dead sister does make him look more guilty! Jeremy is a victim, he's a victim of himself.

It shows his character. Not the image he wishes to present of himself through his letters or his blog but an actual look into his true nature when he didn't think it would matter.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1018 on: May 28, 2015, 01:15:PM »
it does make him more guilty if i did it i cant deny that.

Like I said - least you can see that and are able to admit it Nugs! Someone just seeking the truth, I can admire that!! :)
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1019 on: May 28, 2015, 01:15:PM »
 What EVIDENCE did EP find to pin the murders on Jeremy ?