The meeting with The Sun newspaper:

[nugnug]

hed have to be a saint to be that forgiving.

[Caroline]

hed have to be a saint to be that forgiving.

I'm not sure what point you're making? Are you suggesting that Colin is lying? Colin is quite a spiritual, non-judgemental person. I can see how he found it easy to forgive and perhaps shoulder some of the blame. However, you didn't answer my questions, so I will ask again;

Why do you imagine he shouldn't have been concerned about her brother trying to sell such pictures?

If it were you, would you not think that was a vile thing to do?

 

[lookout]

hed have to be a saint to be that forgiving.

I wouldn't have said " saint ",nugs. He who bedded another woman on his wedding day ?

[lookout]

I wouldn't have said " saint ",nugs. He who bedded another woman on his wedding day ?

Then instead of adhering to his wedding vows of " in sickness and in health ",was divorced 3 months after the twins were born.

[nugnug]

I'm not sure what point you're making? Are you suggesting that Colin is lying? Colin is quite a spiritual, non-judgemental person. I can see how he found it easy to forgive and perhaps shoulder some of the blame. However, you didn't answer my questions, so I will ask again;

Why do you imagine he shouldn't have been concerned about her brother trying to sell such pictures?

If it were you, would you not think that was a vile thing to do?

the best will in the world even if they were ill and it wasnt there fault i dont think most people could be that forgiving that quickly that soon after there kids had died.

[lookout]

My argument has ALWAYS been,that if he'd been anything of a husband,he'd have gone out of his way to help Sheila. After all,there was money at the back of her in her parents, who would NOT have begrudged a halfpenny towards helping their daughter,.
CC could have done MORE to have helped her than he did,instead of turning his back on her,which IMO is unforgiveable---------------------so it's his conscience speaking,nothing else.

[lookout]

CC had put the woman through 3 pregnancies,was it ? Was it not up to him to look after her welfare too ?

[guest154]

Quick to throw stones aren't you, Lookout. At EVERYONE but Jeremy. And all this coming from an individual that supports a child killer online when they prove daily they don't even understand the case!!

[lookout]

 I've attended to women in the past whose partners/husbands have cleared off if the pregnancy has either been a difficult one where the woman has had to spend time in hospital,or there's been a still-birth,and instead of being there for support,there's been no sign of them.
If only people would realise the devastating effect it has on the woman. I've seen it first hand. Even under normal conditions within a relationship where a woman loses a baby,is horrendous enough,and most,if not all,are counselled for however long it takes. It's a dreadful time in any woman's life. 

[lookout]

Quick to throw stones aren't you, Lookout. At EVERYONE but Jeremy. And all this coming from an individual that supports a child killer online when they prove daily they don't even understand the case!!

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I support his innocence ??

[lookout]

It's not ALL about Jeremy-bashing--------------it is a pro-forum too !!

[lookout]

Am I not permitted to give MY support now,or what ?

[maggie]

People seem to think that they were close because Jeremy complained about his family to Colin. He complained to Colin because he knew Colin didn't like them either and thus he was a god person to tell. In any event he complained about his family to a wide variety of people he wasn't shy to trash them.  His co-workers telling police about such trashing didn't do him any favors his big mouth extended to more than just being too open with Sheila. 

After the murders he wanted Colin to believe Sheila did it so naturally interacted with him and tried to convince him by feeding him lies such as the claim the family was going to force her to give the kids up - which he laughed at because they forgot they would need to secure his permission but it was made up they actually simply talked about part time help for her.  Jeremy knew part time help would not convince Colin that Sheila had a motive so he exaggerated.  Apparently he figured since police didn't know Sheila he could tell them the truth about it just being part time help AND/OR he knew others would tell police it was just part time help they were planning and he figured he had better not lie because it would look suspicious.

The same people seem to think he was really close to Brett Collins as well.  I seem to have a different idea of close than most people.  I suspect Collins didn't rush back to the UK upon learning of the murders to support Jeremy because he wanted to console his friend.  I suspect he rushed because he figured Jeremy was loaded now and figured they could party hardy. It is like when people hear their friend got  a huge insurance settlement then when they are broke again the rats flee the ship.   Party friends are not true friends. Jeremy might not have had any true friends for all we know. True friendship is a two way street, who was Jeremy a great friend to?  Many people have a lot of superficial relationships and few real ones. Clearly we don't know everything and I could be wrong, Brett and Jeremy could have been gay lovers who got close emotionally for all we know but I think that is unlikely. I think Jeremy and Brett were both using eachother.   

 

   

You may or may not be right, scipio, I have no idea, we don't even know whether Jeremy and Brett are still in contact or not.

[Caroline]

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I support his innocence ??

In order to stand by Jeremy, you slag everyone else off and make derogatory comments about the victims! Whatever passed between Colin and Sheila - he lost his two children!! Slagging off the only real victim doesn't make Jeremy sound any more innocent Lookout.

[Caroline]

the best will in the world even if they were ill and it wasnt there fault i dont think most people could be that forgiving that quickly that soon after there kids had died.

I think you're wrong, but you still didn't answer the questions. But then again, by not answering - it shows that you have no excuse for that Jeremy did.