The meeting with The Sun newspaper:

[susan]

That's it - in a nut shell - what you betting that someone will come along and confuse things again? The Sun isn't the issue, Colin's confirmation of the description is!! 

 

[lookout]

To me, it's the word "tried" which -I HATE to say it- exonerates even a paper as scummy as the Sun. HAD they gone along with it and BOUGHT them, it would have made them as culpable as Jeremy when her offered to SELL them.

Haven't you ever wondered why they weren't bought ? Not because Sheila was deceased because the press often highlight certain pics of deceased celebrities ( Marylin Monroe for instance ) so it had nothing to do with Sheila being deceased. A few publications refused,allegedly,though I've not seen any reference to them.

[Jane]

Haven't you ever wondered why they weren't bought ? Not because Sheila was deceased because the press often highlight certain pics of deceased celebrities ( Marylin Monroe for instance ) so it had nothing to do with Sheila being deceased. A few publications refused,allegedly,though I've not seen any reference to them.

Lookout, I'm going to stick my neck out and suggest that this MAY have been the first -the ONLY!!!(?)- altruistic act to be performed by the SUN.........................but before you start to attack me for saying it, I'm also going to suggest that it's reasoning was FAR from altruistic. I think the saw a much bigger story AND the advantage of being seen to keep their nose clean. It mattered not that they DIDN'T have pictures to publish. What mattered was that they COULD publish Jeremy that had approached them with an offer which for the sake of propriety, they declined.

[Caroline]

Lookout, I'm going to stick my neck out and suggest that this MAY have been the first -the ONLY!!!(?)- altruistic act to be performed by the SUN.........................but before you start to attack me for saying it, I'm also going to suggest that it's reasoning was FAR from altruistic. I think the saw a much bigger story AND the advantage of being seen to keep their nose clean. It mattered not that they DIDN'T have pictures to publish. What mattered was that they COULD publish Jeremy that had approached them with an offer which for the sake of propriety, they declined.

Jeremy trying to sell them was the BIGGER story.

[Jane]

Jeremy trying to sell them was the BIGGER story.

And they got the story, kept their money AND the moral high ground. A nice days work.

[nugnug]

they would take the moral hig ground anyway they allways do.

[Jan]

Yes, Susan, that is correct - it seems that some people are unable to grasp that their are more than one set of pictures and that the explicit pictures were never SEEN by anyone other than JEREMY and BRETT (I'm getting a headache!!). Top and bottom of it is - Jeremy tried to sell pictures of his dead sister to The Sun - people can either accept it or live in denial. Their choice!!

I am aware there are two sets of photos - but they were originally in two places . I have no Idea why June would keep the photos as she would have disapproved "according to Colin"


I am still not convinced one little bit that if the photos had been there and offered that the sun would have turned them down . They would have jumped at the chance to publish them . They had no morals what so ever. So Yes I am in denial about the full truth of the story. It sounds like one of Adams favourite sayings " it has a ring of truth " about it.  But at the moment we have the NOTW versions and Jeremys version - and to be honest if he is guilty they are both liars - the NOTW has actually been proven to lie about lots of things - so in your world - one set of liars against another .
I would not like to judge tbh - but you carry on .

Our acceptance may just take a bit longer than yours.

[susan]

I am aware there are two sets of photos - but they were originally in two places . I have no Idea why June would keep the photos as she would have disapproved "according to Colin"


I am still not convinced one little bit that if the photos had been there and offered that the sun would have turned them down . They would have jumped at the chance to publish them . They had no morals what so ever. So Yes I am in denial about the full truth of the story. It sounds like one of Adams favourite sayings " it has a ring of truth " about it.  But at the moment we have the NOTW versions and Jeremys version - and to be honest if he is guilty they are both liars - the NOTW has actually been proven to lie about lots of things - so in your world - one set of liars against another .
I would not like to judge tbh - but you carry on .

Our acceptance may just take a bit longer than yours.

Hi Jan

Actually three sets of photo's existed according to Colin.  I am taking Colin's word about the photo's he did write to Jeremy to try and get them back.  What niggles me is how did the Sun get to know about these sex snaps (their words) they must have been told by Jeremy or Colin.

[Adam]

I am aware there are two sets of photos - but they were originally in two places . I have no Idea why June would keep the photos as she would have disapproved "according to Colin"


I am still not convinced one little bit that if the photos had been there and offered that the sun would have turned them down . They would have jumped at the chance to publish them . They had no morals what so ever. So Yes I am in denial about the full truth of the story. It sounds like one of Adams favourite sayings " it has a ring of truth " about it.  But at the moment we have the NOTW versions and Jeremys version - and to be honest if he is guilty they are both liars - the NOTW has actually been proven to lie about lots of things - so in your world - one set of liars against another .
I would not like to judge tbh - but you carry on .

Our acceptance may just take a bit longer than yours.

Jan you must stop supporting Jeremy.

I have only said 'ring of truth'once. When creating a thread on Julies WS. The defence lawyers admitted it had a 'ring of truth'. Oh I've just mentioned it twice.

The judge also asked the jury if Julie's testimony had a 'ring of truth' (opps) to it. Do you know I do believe the jury did believe it to be the case.

[Adam]

That is a good point.

How did The Sun know of the existence of the photo's ?

And how did they know Jeremy had them ?

And why did they care. It was murder/suicide from weeks ago.

[Adam]

It seems Jeremy was very stupid. Or very greedy. Or both.

The OS says The Sun contacted him. This is very very unlikely.

Anyway the OS says Jeremy was suspicious and consulted a lawyer. The lawyer advised him not to attend. Jeremy ignored the advice.

The lawyer did not advise him to tape the interview if he went against his advice. Or the lawyer did advise this and again Jeremy ignored the advice.

Brett was brought along. Neither Brett or Jeremy thought to tape the conversation. 

[nugnug]

how is it unlikely there always contacting relative and family members when a tragedy occurs.

[nugnug]

That is a good point.

How did The Sun know of the existence of the photo's ?

And how did they know Jeremy had them ?

And why did they care. It was murder/suicide from weeks ago.

she was a model it doesnt take a genuis to work out there might be nude pictures of her.

[Adam]

she was a model it doesnt take a genuis to work out there might be nude pictures of her.

Pornographic pictures is what the OS said The Sun were interested in. Although The Sun were not allowed to publish such pictures.

How did The Sun know these pictures existed and that Jeremy had them ?

Why did The Sun contact Jeremy and then not demand to see the photographs. Or pay to get them ? They were obviously desperate to get hold of the pictures they could not publish.

And why did The Sun care. It was news from weeks ago.

[nugnug]

the could of published censred versons of them.

they have done so before.