The meeting with The Sun newspaper:

[Caroline]

If The Sun had written a made up story about the pictures, why would he choose  the NOTW to tell his story to if he was acquitted? 

[maggie]

I appreciate supporters have to go down the discrediting of The Sun route on this issue.

However the OS backs up a lot of The Sun's claims -

The meeting happened.

Brett was there.

Photos were discussed.

No photos were provided at the meeting. 


I assume money was discussed. Jeremy would agree to give his life story and/or pictures to The Sun for nothing. He didn't in his NOTW negotiations.

Hi Adam, my remarks about the Sun especially in the 1980s have nothing to do with trying to discredit it or it's journalists and editor, I believe their immorality and lying has been exposed over the past few years and they have been thoroughly discredited. 
I am just asking you to acknowledge The Sun Newspaper's proven behaviour which was.... printing lies and false stores on the front page therefore it is a poor argument for you to employ against Jeremy Bamber.  I am not doubting Colin's words or therefore that in this case the said rag may have been telling the truth, rather the angle you argue from and your total disrespect to the Hillsborough 96, their families and friends.
 

[nugnug]

I appreciate supporters have to go down the discrediting of The Sun route on this issue.

However the OS backs up a lot of The Sun's claims -

The meeting happened.

Brett was there.

Photos were discussed.


well we dont really need to descredit the sun its the sun.
No photos were provided at the meeting. 


I assume money was discussed. Jeremy would agree to give his life story and/or pictures to The Sun for nothing. He didn't in his NOTW negotiations.

we dont really need to descredit the its the sun.

[nugnug]

If The Sun had written a made up story about the pictures, why would he choose  the NOTW to tell his story to if he was acquitted? 

could it be becouse no other paper was intrested.

[Jane]

could it be becouse no other paper was intrested.

Probably wouldn't go near them with a barge-pole. :D

[nugnug]

So let's see:

1) Jeremy talked about selling them and the Sun said no

2) Jeremy then Let Colin find out about them and since the were of no use agreed to let Collin have them

3) The Sun screwed him by refusing to pay him and instead did a story about how scummy he was that he wanted to sell them to the Sun and they paid nothing for such a great hatchet job.

So in sum- the irony...

the point is that jeremys story is consitant with colins statement so it can not be proven he made it up as has been cliamed.

[Jan]

. He had been making the flat into his London based bachelor pad.

What exactly do you mean by this and what is your source?

Also colin mentioned photos of Sheila that her mother had been keeping ( not at the flat)

[nugnug]

if her mother had been keeping  photos they would off been found at whf wouldent they.

[susan]

if her mother had been keeping  photos they would off been found at whf wouldent they.

Jeremy said he found the photo's that Colin had taken of Sheila (nude) in the fields at WHF when they first met in his Mothers bureau at WHF and Jeremy removed them and took them back to Sheila's flat and he did give them to Colin.

[Caroline]

Jeremy said he found the photo's that Colin had taken of Sheila (nude) in the fields at WHF when they first met in his Mothers bureau at WHF and Jeremy removed them and took them back to Sheila's flat and he did give them to Colin.

Yes, Susan, that is correct - it seems that some people are unable to grasp that their are more than one set of pictures and that the explicit pictures were never SEEN by anyone other than JEREMY and BRETT (I'm getting a headache!!). Top and bottom of it is - Jeremy tried to sell pictures of his dead sister to The Sun - people can either accept it or live in denial. Their choice!!

[susan]

Yes, Susan, that is correct - it seems that some people are unable to grasp that their are more than one set of pictures and that the explicit pictures were never SEEN by anyone other than JEREMY and BRETT (I'm getting a headache!!). Top and bottom of it is - Jeremy tried to sell pictures of his dead sister to The Sun - people can either accept it or live in denial. Their choice!!

Caroline quite right and what people need to accept the Sun must have been told about the explicit pictures for them to run their  story "Bambi Brother In Photo Scandal" he tried to peddle sex snaps of model.  When Colin read the article he knew it was true as the way the Sun described him talking about the pictures was exactly as he had talked to him about them.  I think this is proof enough Jeremy tried to sell explicit photo's of his dead sister to the Sun .

[lookout]

What " life story ?".He was only 24. He'd never lived.

Life story is when you're about 90.

[Caroline]

Caroline quite right and what people need to accept the Sun must have been told about the explicit pictures for them to run their  story "Bambi Brother In Photo Scandal" he tried to peddle sex snaps of model.  When Colin read the article he knew it was true as the way the Sun described him talking about the pictures was exactly as he had talked to him about them.  I think this is proof enough Jeremy tried to sell explicit photo's of his dead sister to the Sun .

That's it - in a nut shell - what you betting that someone will come along and confuse things again? The Sun isn't the issue, Colin's confirmation of the description is!! 

[lookout]

Note the word  " tried ",which isn't the same as " did ".

[Jane]

Note the word  " tried ",which isn't the same as " did ".

To me, it's the word "tried" which -I HATE to say it- exonerates even a paper as scummy as the Sun. HAD they gone along with it and BOUGHT them, it would have made them as culpable as Jeremy when her offered to SELL them.