Facts

[lookout]

It is interesting that June was peppered with bullets apart from the shot dead centre between the eyes like an assassination ??  Like two different styles of working, if you'll excuse the expression

The poor woman was shot with meaningful hatred and a determination to rid that person of " evil ",which had eaten into the mind of the shooter,and it WASN'T Jeremy. Sheila,in her mind was fighting between good and evil,which in her delusional state was the right thing to do.
Sheila hadn't been religious,but the only time that she was, came after her discharge from hospital in March 1985,when she mentioned that she'd found God. ( re.letter to AE from hospital )

Sheila had been on a downward spiral and it was inevitable how it was going to end.

[lookout]

Another mother killed her beautiful baby while suffering post-natal depression.
I can't believe that the woman was asked if she felt suicidal  Of course she's going to say no !!
Apparently the woman had previously received a letter from her ex-partner to which scared her. It was discussing her access to the children.
The mother suffocated her 10 month old daughter,then tried to take her own life by taking an overdose,but was sick and managed to come to.

The NSPCC  urged more support for families dealing with perinatal mental health issues.

[guest154]

Another mother killed her beautiful baby while suffering post-natal depression.
I can't believe that the woman was asked if she felt suicidal  Of course she's going to say no !!
Apparently the woman had previously received a letter from her ex-partner to which scared her. It was discussing her access to the children.
The mother suffocated her 10 month old daughter,then tried to take her own life by taking an overdose,but was sick and managed to come to.

The NSPCC  urged more support for families dealing with perinatal mental health issues.

What's that got to do with this topic? Why do you only post about women that kill? Not using it as propaganda surely?

[Caroline]

What's that got to do with this topic? Why do you only post about women that kill? Not using it as propaganda surely?

Heaven forbid Mat! 

[lookout]

It has EVERYTHING to do with the state of Sheila's mind !!

[Caroline]

It has EVERYTHING to do with the state of Sheila's mind !!

Some unrelated case 30 years after Sheila was murdered has nothing to do with THIS case or the state of her mind. She was n medication ANTI-psychotic medication

[lookout]

Some unrelated case 30 years after Sheila was murdered has nothing to do with THIS case or the state of her mind. She was n medication ANTI-psychotic medication

Why don't you admit that her medication had been reduced by 50% instead of in steps of 10% at a time ? It's as disasterous to reduce medication like that as it is to abstain as the illness returns with a vengeance.
Maybe different if she was/had been improving-------------but she wasn't,as her condition had deteriorated.

[Caroline]

Why don't you admit that her medication had been reduced by 50% instead of in steps of 10% at a time ? It's as disasterous to reduce medication like that as it is to abstain as the illness returns with a vengeance.
Maybe different if she was/had been improving-------------but she wasn't,as her condition had deteriorated.

Who said her condition had deteriorated? AND I know her medication was reduced but she was STILL taking medication. Please don't try and tell me that what she was taking was just the same as taking nothing - I know for a fact that isn't true.

[lookout]

Who said her condition had deteriorated? AND I know her medication was reduced but she was STILL taking medication. Please don't try and tell me that what she was taking was just the same as taking nothing - I know for a fact that isn't true.

You seem not to know anything about medication and its effects when reduced as drastically as it was. It was as good as nothing in Sheila's condition
One of the doctors,possibly Ferguson had stated that her mental health had deteriorated.
I'm sorry if it's not what you wanted to know !

[lookout]

Doctor Ferguson had told Colin that her condition had deteriorated.

[guest154]

You seem not to know anything about medication and its effects when reduced as drastically as it was. It was as good as nothing in Sheila's condition
One of the doctors,possibly Ferguson had stated that her mental health had deteriorated.
I'm sorry if it's not what you wanted to know !

 Lookout, you're the one that knows NOTHING about this case. Absolute zero. It's an embarrassment you even comment on it!
You pluck things out of thin air. Claim the most ABSURD things that even supporters distance themselves from your inept ramblings.
You mislead about where you have read things - claiming your information comes from COLP statements when it REALLY came from a pro bamber blog.
You continually post incorrect details about the autopsy reports, they are available on this forum for anyone to read - so why you add things to them I'll never know.
Then there is your false claim that the phone call between Jeremy and his Dad is held on an answering machine tape. 

It has EVERYTHING to do with the state of Sheila's mind !!

No it doesn't. It had NOTHING to do with Sheila or this case. You just use a 10 month old childs death to further your own case. Distasteful in the extreme! But whatever makes Sheila seem guilty eh?

[lookout]

Joined at the hip,are we ? Tsk.

All YOU ever say about the case is slagging off what IV'E said----------------so back off !!

[Jane]

You seem not to know anything about medication and its effects when reduced as drastically as it was. It was as good as nothing in Sheila's condition
One of the doctors,possibly Ferguson had stated that her mental health had deteriorated.
I'm sorry if it's not what you wanted to know !

I can only believe that what Ferguson meant was that her health had deteriorated since he'd seen her previously when she'd had her earlier breakdown. I don't believe he'd have allowed her to discharge herself had he been at all concerned about her own safety and that of others, and I believe he thought that meds delivered by monthly injections was the answer.

[guest154]

I can only believe that what Ferguson meant was that her health had deteriorated since he'd seen her previously when she'd had her earlier breakdown. I don't believe he'd have allowed her to discharge herself had he been at all concerned about her own safety and that of others, and I believe he thought that meds delivered by monthly injections was the answer.

It makes no sense to me that such a comment would be made about her mental health at the same time as her medication was being cut in half.

I don't believe it one bit! 

[lookout]

I can only believe that what Ferguson meant was that her health had deteriorated since he'd seen her previously when she'd had her earlier breakdown. I don't believe he'd have allowed her to discharge herself had he been at all concerned about her own safety and that of others, and I believe he thought that meds delivered by monthly injections was the answer.

A symptom of taking a high-potency neuroleptic in a lower dose has been known to cause Akithisia which DOES cause a patient to commit mass murder either within a household or randomly in the public domain.

Her health------------meaning Mental Health as there was NOTHING wrong with her physically when she'd been examined by Vanezis.
It DOES state that Ferguson wasn't happy with her sudden release from hospital,but it must have been HER own decision. He also disagreed with the 50% reduction in the Haldol,that Angeloglou made.