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[David1819]

I felt really chocked when I saw David trying to hold back the tears when he was telling his story.  I like Kerry Dayner, I have seen and watched her a lot over the past couple of years.  However, her opinion is her opinion based on the fact that Jeremy is guilty and what she has been told.

I think the documentary was made is 1995 because the narrator mentioned 20 years on and Bamber is still protesting his innocence.

The other point I picked up on was the baby rats and how cutely small they were and that Jeremy had put the baby rats in his pocket and asked his mother to put her hand in the pocket.  BW said this shocked her.  So the rats were not placed in a bag on the back seat of her car at all.

The story tells of Bamber going off to buy a semi automatic rifle this was not the case his father bought the rifle for Jeremy his fathers name was on the licence.

Bews states that Jeremy was begging them to go in and based on what Bamber had told them about the guns he said there was no way he was going in.  He also said that Bamber was worried.

David said there were tears at the funeral and I have always believed they were.

Many mistakes in the doco...but interesting nonetheless.

This is the hand shot they portrayed of Sheila at first I did not think it was her hand but it is. Her nails were very long indeed.

Yes it was made in 2005 I remember it first braodcast

David Boultflour mentions finding the moderator after the funeral? I thought they found it just a few days after the massacre ?

[Patti]

Yes it was made in 2005 I remember it first braodcast

David Boultflour mentions finding the moderator after the funeral? I thought they found it just a few days after the massacre ?

I meant 2005 David sorry.  Did he say that? Must watch it again then. 

[nugnug]

Yes it was made in 2005 I remember it first braodcast

David Boultflour mentions finding the moderator after the funeral? I thought they found it just a few days after the massacre ?

thats what i thought as well.

[Alias]

Here is the bathroom.

[Caroline]

I felt really chocked when I saw David trying to hold back the tears when he was telling his story.  I like Kerry Dayner, I have seen and watched her a lot over the past couple of years.  However, her opinion is her opinion based on the fact that Jeremy is guilty and what she has been told.

I think the documentary was made is 1995 because the narrator mentioned 20 years on and Bamber is still protesting his innocence.

The other point I picked up on was the baby rats and how cutely small they were and that Jeremy had put the baby rats in his pocket and asked his mother to put her hand in the pocket.  BW said this shocked her.  So the rats were not placed in a bag on the back seat of her car at all.

The story tells of Bamber going off to buy a semi automatic rifle this was not the case his father bought the rifle for Jeremy his fathers name was on the licence.

Bews states that Jeremy was begging them to go in and based on what Bamber had told them about the guns he said there was no way he was going in.  He also said that Bamber was worried.

David said there were tears at the funeral and I have always believed they were.

Many mistakes in the doco...but interesting nonetheless.

This is the hand shot they portrayed of Sheila at first I did not think it was her hand but it is. Her nails were very long indeed.

Kerry is a professional and highly respected in her field so it slightly more than simply a bog standard opinion. Plus 20 years on from 1985 is 2005 which is the year (our) David mentioned the docu was made.

[Patti]

Here is the bathroom.

I guess this is the downstairs bathroom Alias?

[Alias]

For comparison, There seems to be more blood on the top picture, puzzling.

[lookout]

I guess this is the downstairs bathroom Alias?

Must be a damp patch under the window.

[lookout]

I felt really chocked when I saw David trying to hold back the tears when he was telling his story.  I like Kerry Dayner, I have seen and watched her a lot over the past couple of years.  However, her opinion is her opinion based on the fact that Jeremy is guilty and what she has been told.

I think the documentary was made is 1995 because the narrator mentioned 20 years on and Bamber is still protesting his innocence.

The other point I picked up on was the baby rats and how cutely small they were and that Jeremy had put the baby rats in his pocket and asked his mother to put her hand in the pocket.  BW said this shocked her.  So the rats were not placed in a bag on the back seat of her car at all.

The story tells of Bamber going off to buy a semi automatic rifle this was not the case his father bought the rifle for Jeremy his fathers name was on the licence.

Bews states that Jeremy was begging them to go in and based on what Bamber had told them about the guns he said there was no way he was going in.  He also said that Bamber was worried.

David said there were tears at the funeral and I have always believed they were.

Many mistakes in the doco...but interesting nonetheless.

This is the hand shot they portrayed of Sheila at first I did not think it was her hand but it is. Her nails were very long indeed.

Notice how clean her hands were. No blood or staining.

[Jan]

That's how they talk around here. Didn't notice anything wrong with his eyes.

I did however notice the 'smirk' by JB on occasions. The one at the funeral was so obvious and his hand gesture was so blatantly put on...

I always like to look at things both ways and yes he looks uncomfortable - however he is 24 and the only member of his family left and has to acknowledge all the people who have attended to pay their respects - he probably did not know how to behave  , how to greet people , how to thank them . He knew the cameras were there as well which does not normally happen at a funeral. Colin said at the time he noticed nothing unusual  except he was odd in the car on the way back - he put it down to valium and possibly pot. In retrospect you can look at it both ways.

If those police were telling the truth and they were so sure he was acting odd and acting they should have spoken up immediately.

The doctor on the night was very concerned for Jeremy - he said at one stage he was in shock and he was not sure he should be interviewed - so take your pick.

[Steve_uk]

A well-polished clip with an overview of events of the period,but anyone looking for more than the conventional truth will come away disappointed. Jeremy the psychopath,Colin the penniless arts student,June the psychotic and Sheila the paranoid schizophrenic.. in fact all depicted as hapless apart from the victors,who find the silencer conveniently in situ:no mention of the trick of the light, the bible suicide note and the photograph of Sheila added hurriedly as an afterthought to provide the balance which was surely lacking,as the white prison van speeds off to Wormwood Scrubs with Jeremy behind those iron grilles which always did exist in his mind,whether at the White House,Full Sutton or the dormitory of Gresham's School and provoking his bravado response in all of those locales as life continues unyieldingly for those left behind.

[Jan]

A well-polished clip with an overview of events of the period,but anyone looking for more than the conventional truth will come away disappointed. Jeremy the psychopath,Colin the penniless arts student,June the psychotic and Sheila the paranoid schizophrenic.. in fact all depicted as hapless apart from the victors,who find the silencer conveniently in situ:no mention of the trick of the light, the bible suicide note and the photograph of Sheila added hurriedly as an afterthought to provide the balance which was surely lacking,as the white prison van speeds off to Wormwood Scrubs with Jeremy behind those iron grilles which always did exist in his mind,whether at the White House,Full Sutton or the dormitory of Gresham's School and provoking his bravado response in all of those locales as life continues unyieldingly for those left behind.

you should write the prologue to Jeremys book when he gets out 

[lookout]

A well-polished clip with an overview of events of the period,but anyone looking for more than the conventional truth will come away disappointed. Jeremy the psychopath,Colin the penniless arts student,June the psychotic and Sheila the paranoid schizophrenic.. in fact all depicted as hapless apart from the victors,who find the silencer conveniently in situ:no mention of the trick of the light, the bible suicide note and the photograph of Sheila added hurriedly as an afterthought to provide the balance which was surely lacking,as the white prison van speeds off to Wormwood Scrubs with Jeremy behind those iron grilles which always did exist in his mind,whether at the White House,Full Sutton or the dormitory of Gresham's School and provoking his bravado response in all of those locales as life continues unyieldingly for those left behind.

I thought about all the misfits too.

[Jan]

Lol...

Do you think it is right that these officers appear in these films ? Personally I am surprised they contribute . They believe he is guilty , they have done their job - why on earth fuel the fire ?

[Jan]

I meant 2005 David sorry.  Did he say that? Must watch it again then. 

what date was the funeral? Just wondered if they said it was after ,it might tie up with the document that Mike posted about reporting it in Sept ?