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[lookout]

Excellent docu and interesting to note that the highly respected Consultant Forensic Psychologist Kerry Daynes; agrees that he's a psychopath and the dodgy pretend solicitor thinks it's a conspiracy. I know who I'm backing. Well said kerry.

I would say that what the psychologist said refers to lots of people who aren't psychopaths.
Myself for instance-------who can shut off. That actually comes about from the discipline of training to be a nurse where you have to learn to shut off as soon as you leave a ward,etc.
A lot depends on the background of a person too as to how they react in given situations. I was also brought up in a strict household with the stiff upper-lip attitude to most things.
The trouble being,when you're let out of that atmosphere to go to a club,etc,you really let your hair down,so it comes as no surprise that both Sheila and Jeremy acted the way they did.It was a great adventure to see the nightlife after the stifling enclosure called home. The more you saw of it,the more you wanted.

[Caroline]

I would say that what the psychologist said refers to lots of people who aren't psychopaths.
Myself for instance-------who can shut off. That actually comes about from the discipline of training to be a nurse where you have to learn to shut off as soon as you leave a ward,etc.
A lot depends on the background of a person too as to how they react in given situations. I was also brought up in a strict household with the stiff upper-lip attitude to most things.
The trouble being,when you're let out of that atmosphere to go to a club,etc,you really let your hair down,so it comes as no surprise that both Sheila and Jeremy acted the way they did.It was a great adventure to see the nightlife after the stifling enclosure called home. The more you saw of it,the more you wanted.

She wasn't talking about you or people that can shut off, she was talking about Psychopaths and Jeremy being a 'classic case'. Someone who fits almost ALL of the criteria.

[Jan]

Because he was mulling over the 'possible' scenario's of what 'might' be waiting for them. It was his job to do so.

I understand that - however having like you - read a lot - I was under the impression it was well into the night that Jeremy asked them to go in . Much later on.

He is making it clear it was when they got there - so before even they had had much time to evaluate the situation.

So we have JB  trying to delay them getting there ( allegedly) then when they got there he is begging them to go in ? Which would then show immediately that they had not just been shot ?

[David1819]

This is not new.

This was first broadcast on sky2 in 2005. that's When I first heard of the case.

Jeremy complained to Ofcom lol 

[Caroline]

I understand that - however having like you - read a lot - I was under the impression it was well into the night that Jeremy asked them to go in . Much later on.

He is making it clear it was when they got there - so before even they had had much time to evaluate the situation.

So we have JB  trying to delay them getting there ( allegedly) then when they got there he is begging them to go in ? Which would then show immediately that they had not just been shot ?

After telling them his sister was a nutter, that the house was full of guns and that she knew how to use them. It's pretty certain that they weren't going to storm on in there.

[Caroline]

This is not new.

This was first broadcast on sky2 in 2005. that's When I first heard of the case.

Jeremy complained to Ofcom lol

Yes, I know, because Kerry Dayner considers him a psychopath. He did like it, I think she struck chord! I think he should volunteer to her her test him. 

[Adam]

This is not new.

This was first broadcast on sky2 in 2005. that's When I first heard of the case.

Jeremy complained to Ofcom lol

It's new to most people on here.

Posted on Youtube a few hours ago. With only 14 views.

[nugnug]

This is not new.

This was first broadcast on sky2 in 2005. that's When I first heard of the case.

Jeremy complained to Ofcom lol

i thought that when i watched the end he sacked destefono years ago.

[lookout]

After telling them his sister was a nutter, that the house was full of guns and that she knew how to use them. It's pretty certain that they weren't going to storm on in there.

So how long after that did it take the firearms team to arrive and storm the place ?

[Caroline]

So how long after that did it take the firearms team to arrive and storm the place ?

Well, Bews didn't indicate a time but the Raid team didn't hold back longer than usual in this case. Sieges can take a hell of a lot longer than it took in this instance.

[Jan]

the Dickinson report says there was a delay in communication that could not be explained - apparently the raid team  should have got there earlier.

I think ( and I may be wrong) that JB denied he called her those names on  the night he used the medical  term . And I did not see that word used in the original note books - only September statements .

Not that it matters that much  because I am sure that as we all know those kind of words were more used then - a bit like the words that the police used in derogatory terms about Brett and Jeremy - they are not PC now either .

I may have seen extracts of this video - I have not seen it all the way through.

[Alias]

Excellent docu and interesting to note that the highly respected Consultant Forensic Psychologist Kerry Daynes; agrees that he's a psychopath and the dodgy pretend solicitor thinks it's a conspiracy. I know who I'm backing. Well said kerry.

HAHAHA, I just knew you would say that- was waiting for it. I always know what you will say! 

I have added some photos to the photo thread (still need to add a lot). I don´t know if I am going mad, but there is a "new" photo of Sheila´s bloodied hand, a clearer one than the ones we had, but when I was about to put it in the archives, it was already there! Did someone else put it there, or am I doing things without knowing it!?

I deleted the one that was already there, so I can´t see when it was put there.

[Alias]

I understand that - however having like you - read a lot - I was under the impression it was well into the night that Jeremy asked them to go in . Much later on.

He is making it clear it was when they got there - so before even they had had much time to evaluate the situation.

So we have JB  trying to delay them getting there ( allegedly) then when they got there he is begging them to go in ? Which would then show immediately that they had not just been shot ?

Excellent point!

[Alias]

Just want to add, there are a lot of new pictures, Jeremy as a child, a picture of one of the bathrooms, I don´t know which one, upstairs or downstairs. Photos of June and Nevill, Colin, a lot, Will add them some at a time, so keep an eye on the photo thread.

[Patti]

I felt really chocked when I saw David trying to hold back the tears when he was telling his story.  I like Kerry Dayner, I have seen and watched her a lot over the past couple of years.  However, her opinion is her opinion based on the fact that Jeremy is guilty and what she has been told.

I think the documentary was made is 1995 because the narrator mentioned 20 years on and Bamber is still protesting his innocence.

The other point I picked up on was the baby rats and how cutely small they were and that Jeremy had put the baby rats in his pocket and asked his mother to put her hand in the pocket.  BW said this shocked her.  So the rats were not placed in a bag on the back seat of her car at all.

The story tells of Bamber going off to buy a semi automatic rifle this was not the case his father bought the rifle for Jeremy his fathers name was on the licence.

Bews states that Jeremy was begging them to go in and based on what Bamber had told them about the guns he said there was no way he was going in.  He also said that Bamber was worried.

David said there were tears at the funeral and I have always believed they were.

Many mistakes in the doco...but interesting nonetheless.

This is the hand shot they portrayed of Sheila at first I did not think it was her hand but it is. Her nails were very long indeed.