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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #285 on: April 09, 2015, 01:10:PM »
As far as I'm concerned nugs, I cannot see anyone being able to commit those dreadful murders, clean themselves up and face the police cool as you like a few hours later.  Sheer badness isn't enough to sustain yourself through such dreadful carnage and not have any emotional reaction.imo
However, this is just my opinion, he may be the exception to the rule  :-\ :-\

As you're not a psychopath, I'd be very surprised if you could. It isn't within your frame of reference.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #286 on: April 09, 2015, 01:29:PM »
As you're not a psychopath, I'd be very surprised if you could. It isn't within your frame of reference.
meant unless someone was a psychopath, seem to have missed that out of my post. I shall correct it. before everyone tells me what I already know.
 

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #287 on: April 09, 2015, 01:30:PM »
Psychopaths can do just that - and that's not an opinion, it's a fact.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #288 on: April 09, 2015, 01:36:PM »
It's not possible to say whether he is innocent or guilty either without having been there but we all have an opinion. It follows that psychopathy would be a consideration if following a guilty persuasion and it certainly has a place in such a discussion. We know enough about Jeremy to at least hold an opinion and the fact that such an opinion leaves a bad taste in the mouths or some is neither here nor there.
I have no bad taste in my mouth thanks and I also know what a psychpath is, I have read plenty on the subject. I just missed a couple of words out of my post that's all. I'm not judging your opinion, or forcing my opinion on anybody.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #289 on: April 09, 2015, 02:04:PM »
if you anilsed the behavior of anybody you could find things to suggest they were a psycopath.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #290 on: April 09, 2015, 02:07:PM »
According to AE's statement (taken between 8th and 13th Sept) she asked Jeremy why he didn't go to WHF as allegedly requested by Nevill's phone call - Jeremy replied that he was frightened that the call may have been a trick in order to lure him to the farm so Sheila could 'shoot him too'. At this point (after the supposed call from Nevill) Jeremy isn't supposed to know that anyone had been shot!

That sounds like he has absorbed a theory from DCI Thomas Jones.  Mike Tesko has always claimed that one of Taff's theories was that the phone call was an attempt made under duress, to lure Jeremy to the farm.  i.e. Ralph fluffed the call, to alert Jeremy.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #291 on: April 09, 2015, 02:09:PM »
if you anilsed the behavior of anybody you could find things to suggest they were a psycopath.



Of course, but only if they ticked ALL the boxes would they actually BE one, and even then, unless one vital element is present, they'll be unlikely to EVER commit murder.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #292 on: April 09, 2015, 02:18:PM »
i bet through selective interprtation and qaution i could make anyone of you look like pscopaths if i wanted to.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #293 on: April 09, 2015, 02:23:PM »
I have no bad taste in my mouth thanks and I also know what a psychpath is, I have read plenty on the subject. I just missed a couple of words out of my post that's all. I'm not judging your opinion, or forcing my opinion on anybody.

OK, clam down! I can't know what you mean, only what you post!!
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #294 on: April 09, 2015, 02:24:PM »
i bet through selective interprtation and qaution i could make anyone of you look like pscopaths if i wanted to.

Only problem there Nugs, is that (as far as I know), we haven't been convicted of killing 5 people!!
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #295 on: April 09, 2015, 02:29:PM »
That sounds like he has absorbed a theory from DCI Thomas Jones.  Mike Tesko has always claimed that one of Taff's theories was that the phone call was an attempt made under duress, to lure Jeremy to the farm.  i.e. Ralph fluffed the call, to alert Jeremy.

Except, he wasn't supposed to know that anyone had been shot at that point.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #296 on: April 09, 2015, 02:31:PM »
i bet through selective interprtation and qaution i could make anyone of you look like pscopaths if i wanted to.



I expect we could do the same for you. WHAT would it prove, other than we had nothing better to do?

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #297 on: April 09, 2015, 02:35:PM »
I have no bad taste in my mouth thanks and I also know what a psychpath is, I have read plenty on the subject. I just missed a couple of words out of my post that's all. I'm not judging your opinion, or forcing my opinion on anybody.


I'm unconcerned to learn that you know what a psychopath IS. I'd be VERY concerned if you'd said you know how it FEELS.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #298 on: April 09, 2015, 04:04:PM »
Except, he wasn't supposed to know that anyone had been shot at that point.

I dont get what you mean... and I do get what you mean, if you get what I mean? 

Yes he is not supposed to know that anyone has been shot.  But his version of events is that a desparate phone call from his dad was received which alleged a crazed Sheila was armed.  Given that everyone was then killed and that Taff Jones was of the opinion that Sheila was cuplabale / Jeremy was not,  I can see why Jeremy would say that to Ann. 

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #299 on: April 09, 2015, 04:11:PM »


I expect we could do the same for you. WHAT would it prove, other than we had nothing better to do?

it would prove that you put anyone in the frame for something very easly.