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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #135 on: April 13, 2015, 12:43:AM »
Except no one was suggesting that.
  You cannot suggest anything from handwriting; it is pseudoscience. There has been plenty of discussion about what can be discerned from JB's handwriting and his habit of writing in caps. Much has been read into this based on the pronouncements of a few snake oil salesmen and it is about as reliable as asking Mystic Meg.

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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #136 on: April 13, 2015, 02:20:AM »
  You cannot suggest anything from handwriting; it is pseudoscience. There has been plenty of discussion about what can be discerned from JB's handwriting and his habit of writing in caps. Much has been read into this based on the pronouncements of a few snake oil salesmen and it is about as reliable as asking Mystic Meg.

http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-0318-durst-20150318-story.html

"Among the evidence against Durst is a letter sent to Berman in 1999 that has handwriting strikingly similar to that on an anonymous note sent to Beverly Hills police at the time of Berman's killing, telling them that they would find "a cadaver" at Berman's house. In both samples, the writing is in all capital letters, and Beverly Hills is misspelled as "Beverley Hills."
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #137 on: April 13, 2015, 09:27:AM »
What snide remarks?  ???

I am not stupid, the icyness is palpable.

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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #138 on: April 13, 2015, 09:30:AM »
http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-0318-durst-20150318-story.html

"Among the evidence against Durst is a letter sent to Berman in 1999 that has handwriting strikingly similar to that on an anonymous note sent to Beverly Hills police at the time of Berman's killing, telling them that they would find "a cadaver" at Berman's house. In both samples, the writing is in all capital letters, and Beverly Hills is misspelled as "Beverley Hills."

Interesting link Steph - I wonder is Mrs Lowe managed to sell all of her snake oil?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #139 on: April 13, 2015, 09:31:AM »
I am not stupid, the icyness is palpable.

I think you're reading too much into it - there were no snide remarks that I could see nor anything that can be taken as such.
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #140 on: April 13, 2015, 09:19:PM »
http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-0318-durst-20150318-story.html

"Among the evidence against Durst is a letter sent to Berman in 1999 that has handwriting strikingly similar to that on an anonymous note sent to Beverly Hills police at the time of Berman's killing, telling them that they would find "a cadaver" at Berman's house. In both samples, the writing is in all capital letters, and Beverly Hills is misspelled as "Beverley Hills."
  You do understand the difference between handwriting identification and the superstition of graphology, I hope. All this link shows is that two pieces of handwriting can be identified as being written by the same person. It has nothing to do with any of the previous posts and nothing to do with discerning personality from handwriting.
     Do you actually consider graphology as serious science?
   
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #141 on: April 13, 2015, 11:46:PM »
  You do understand the difference between handwriting identification and the superstition of graphology, I hope. All this link shows is that two pieces of handwriting can be identified as being written by the same person. It has nothing to do with any of the previous posts and nothing to do with discerning personality from handwriting.
     Do you actually consider graphology as serious science?
 

Just checking you knew the difference....  ;D

No, I believe there are far too many other indicators regarding JB's personality that give us clues.

And it's not so much how he writes but what he says when he writes, or doesn't say in many cases. I do believe he uses NLP when he communicates.

 

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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #142 on: April 14, 2015, 12:50:AM »
Just checking you knew the difference....  ;D

No, I believe there are far too many other indicators regarding JB's personality that give us clues.

And it's not so much how he writes but what he says when he writes, or doesn't say in many cases. I do believe he uses NLP when he communicates.
   Do you mean NLP as in the NLP that "the balance of scientific evidence reveals to be a largely discredited pseudoscience" and the one that scientific reviews show to "contain numerous factual errors and fails to produce the results asserted by proponents". That NLP?

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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #143 on: April 14, 2015, 02:02:AM »
Interesting link Steph - I wonder is Mrs Lowe managed to sell all of her snake oil?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
  Well you've bought some  ;D

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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #144 on: April 14, 2015, 02:06:AM »
  Well you've bought some  ;D

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ........  ::) ::)
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #145 on: April 14, 2015, 02:28:AM »
Just because JB has some traits of psychopathy does not mean or prove he is one.

One would have to have most of the traits and exibit them consistently to be psychopath.

Mind you Psychopath and ASPD (Anti-social personality disorder) are not synonymous. Psychopathy is genetics while ASPD is a result of up brining.

If JB is guilty it would mean he is a 110% psychopath. The callousness of the crime plus the failure to take responsibility for it proves it all.

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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #146 on: April 14, 2015, 02:57:AM »
   Do you mean NLP as in the NLP that "the balance of scientific evidence reveals to be a largely discredited pseudoscience" and the one that scientific reviews show to "contain numerous factual errors and fails to produce the results asserted by proponents". That NLP?

Nope, not that one. The one used by psychopaths.
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #147 on: April 14, 2015, 03:02:AM »
Just because JB has some traits of psychopathy does not mean or prove he is one.

One would have to have most of the traits and exibit them consistently to be psychopath.

Mind you Psychopath and ASPD (Anti-social personality disorder) are not synonymous. Psychopathy is genetics while ASPD is a result of up brining.

If JB is guilty it would mean he is a 110% psychopath. The callousness of the crime plus the failure to take responsibility for it proves it all.

Do you see your contradiction.
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #148 on: April 14, 2015, 10:43:AM »
 EVERYONE has " traits " of some psychopathy.On here,for instance where I see,and recognise the signs !!

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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #149 on: April 14, 2015, 10:51:AM »
EVERYONE has " traits " of some psychopathy.On here,for instance where I see,and recognise the signs !!

Yet no one here has murdered 5 members of teir family in cold blood. Jeremy doesn't just have one or two traits, the list could have been written for him!
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