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Offline Caroline

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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #1215 on: February 23, 2016, 05:06:PM »





I'm not suggesting anything of the sort. What makes you say things like that ?

I think it was a joke Lookout.
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #1216 on: February 23, 2016, 05:09:PM »





I'm not suggesting anything of the sort. What makes you say things like that ?


Lookout, when tongue is stuck in cheek, articulation sometimes takes a back seat. ;D

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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #1217 on: February 23, 2016, 05:14:PM »
I'm so used to the " alligator treatment ".

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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #1218 on: February 23, 2016, 05:19:PM »
Sounds like you're suggesting handbags at dawn. Don't think Caroline will be shaking her shoes any time soon.





As long as it's a Lois Vuitton ?

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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #1219 on: February 23, 2016, 05:28:PM »




As long as it's a Lois Vuitton ?


Is she Louis's sister? ^-^

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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #1220 on: February 23, 2016, 05:55:PM »




As long as it's a Lois Vuitton ?

No, Sainsbury's (carrier variety)  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #1221 on: February 23, 2016, 06:38:PM »
http://www.sott.net/article/249840-From-Internet-Troll-to-Psychopathy-Expert-The-Con-Artistry-of-Thomas-Sheridan

"We cannot emphasise enough that some of the most pathological people we have come across have the most normal mask of sanity you can conceive of. They don't physically hurt anybody, they don't look at you funny, they barely even raise their voice in anger. Some of them even excel in particular fields and are, to all appearances, well-adjusted upstanding citizens. What most often catches them out in the end is an otherwise mundane incident that blows up into a big drama as a result of their wholly inappropriate reaction. They simply can't maintain their mask for an indefinite amount of time. But even then, when pathology is staring you in the face, it is oh, so easy to make excuses for them and 'fill in the blanks'. In short, sure-fire diagnoses are risky, and it takes careful networking with others and combined recapitulation of YEARS of observation to come up with any tentative diagnosis and a suitable course of action for protecting the self and others from any apparent psychopath."
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #1222 on: February 23, 2016, 07:09:PM »
There were several more reasons. However inheriting what the judge said was a lot more than £436,000 (prior to MS's death) was the main reason.

ALREADY IN PRISON ON THE FARM:

Was it 14 or 17 hour days on the farm ? Either way long days. At court Jeremy said he had seen his fathers will which tied him to working on the farm until Neville died.


BOARDING SCHOOL:

Mary Mugford said Jeremy 'never forgave June for sending him to boarding school.


THINGS WERE SLIPPING AWAY:

Jeremy was 24. It was the 'loads of money' era. Jeremy wanted to be a rich playboy based in London. But told Julie he had 'too much to lose' by walking away. He had neither the talent or determination to make it alone.

Mary Mugford said in court Jeremy had told her June was going to amend her will in favour of the twins.


OPPORTUNITY:

As the previous thread showed. There was an opportunity and ready made scapegoat.


HATRED:

People testified how Jeremy hated his parents. Julie testified how Jeremy said Sheila upset him when younger.


RESENTMENT:

Sheila was living rent & work free in London. And would have inherited as much as Jeremy when Neville/June deceased. But how many hours had she worked on the farm ? And how many hours would she put in after inheriting ?


DOING EVERYONE A FAVOUR:

Neville was apparently 'ready to be put to pasture', June was a 'religious maniac', Sheila needed being 'put out of her misery' & the twins were bound to be effected by all this. Even Colin would benefit as he would have more time to look for work without the burden of two children.


PROVING JULIE WRONG, AND IMPRESSING HER: 

Julie obviously never believed Jeremy would do something so horrendous. Even on the night she dismissed him. On TV she said Jeremy used to 'say things to shock people'.


STATUS, POWER, FAME:

Jeremy would instantly obtain these. He offered a 'Sun' journalist his life story prior to being charged.


TO SHOW HE COULD ACHIEVE SOMETHING:

The perfect crime and frame. Jeremy was so proud. Ringing Julie on the night. Then telling her later but giving himself a proxy. He later boasted to Liz Rimmington 'only I know what really happened that night'.


ON THE DAY:

Spending 14, or was it 17 hours working on the farm. Watching Sheila & the twins strolling around on their free holiday. A rare opportunity with everyone at WHF. Julies dismissal. Maybe Jeremy had an argument at WHF that night. BW said there was always a strained atmosphere when Jeremy was present.


THE CARAVAN BREAK IN:

BW said June & Neville knew about this. Further damaging their relationship with Jeremy. Was it now beyond repair ? Jeremy and June had not spoken for years according to Mary Mugford.


ADOPTION:

Jeremy was not related by blood. He was adopted and then sent to boarding school. Before persuading his parents to finance some jaunts abroad. Now he was a farm labourer. Complaining about his adoptive parents interfering in his life. Parents he did not like.


THE BUSINESS:

AE says Jeremy and Neville had a blazing row just before the murders. Neville would always have the final say as Jeremy only had a small share. This would have frustrated the 'would be' business executive Jeremy.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5869.msg261995.html#msg261995

I was going to attempt to reference Adams above post from original witness statements (and add further supporting evidence) and give examples of psychopathy/references and make comparisons to the SH case. I'll hopefully come back to this if I can be bothered.
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Re: Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?
« Reply #1223 on: February 23, 2016, 07:44:PM »
"Psychopaths, on the other hand, are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people's trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature.

When committing crimes, psychopaths carefully plan out every detail in advance and often have contingency plans in place. Unlike their sociopathic counterparts, psychopathic criminals are cool, calm, and meticulous. Their crimes, whether violent or non-violent, will be highly organized and generally offer few clues for authorities to pursue. Intelligent psychopaths make excellent white-collar criminals and "con artists" due to their calm and charismatic natures.

http://www.sott.net/article/292891-Basic-distinctions-between-criminal-sociopaths-and-psychopaths
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