Questions about the alleged shower Sheila took ?

[Adam]

Why would Sheila have a shower after the massacre ?

What religious book suggests having a shower prior to a suicide ?

Was there evidence Sheila read this book ?

Why was the religious book which suggests ritualistic cleansing prior to suicide, not next to Sheila ?  As she would have been a reader of the book.

Does the bible next to Sheila suggest ritualistic cleansing prior to suicide ?

Why would the bible be next to Sheila if she had disobeyed it's writings, and had a ritualistic shower ?

A shower would not remove any cuts or bruises on Sheila. Why was Sheila unmarked ?

If Sheila wanted to improve her appearance prior to suicide, why did she put back on a nightie, and no shoes after her shower ?

If Sheila was not wearing a nightie during the massacre and prior to her shower, at 3.26am what was she wearing ?

Where did Sheila put the clothes she took off for her shower if she was not wearing a nightie ?

If she took a shower over 22 minutes after Neville's 3.26am telephone call, would the police not hear and see this ?

If Sheila was wearing a nightie during the massacre and prior to her shower, why is the nightie not marked ?

If Sheila only put on the nightie after her shower, does this mean she did not go to bed ?

If no blood stained clothes were found at WHF, did Sheila have time to hide or dispose these after her shower ?

Why would Sheila hide or dispose clothes after her shower ?

Do all supporters agree Sheila had a shower prior to suicide ?

If Sheila did not have a shower prior to suicide, why is she blood, oil, lubricant and mark free ?

Would having a ritualistic cleansing not be one of the last things to be done, prior to religious reading and suicide ?  If so why didn't anyone outside see or hear this ?

It has been suggested the shower head was in a different position than usual. Is there a source for this ?

When was the last time a living friend or relative saw the shower head position ?

Could Neville, Nicolas, Daniel, June or Bamber have moved the shower head at another time ?

Should this whole allegation be retracted ?

[sherlock]

Why would Sheila have a shower after the massacre ?

What religious book suggests having a shower prior to a suicide ?

Was there evidence Sheila read this book ?

Why was the religious book which suggests ritualistic cleansing prior to suicide, not next to Sheila ?  As she would have been a reader of the book.

Does the bible next to Sheila suggest ritualistic cleansing prior to suicide ?

Why would the bible be next to Sheila if she had disobeyed it's writings, and had a ritualistic shower ?

A shower would not remove any cuts or bruises on Sheila. Why was Sheila unmarked ?

If Sheila wanted to improve her appearance prior to suicide, why did she put back on a nightie, and no shoes after her shower ?

If Sheila was not wearing a nightie during the massacre and prior to her shower, at 3.26am what was she wearing ?

Where did Sheila put the clothes she took off for her shower if she was not wearing a nightie ?

If she took a shower over 22 minutes after Neville's 3.26am telephone call, would the police not hear and see this ?

If Sheila was wearing a nightie during the massacre and prior to her shower, why is the nightie not marked ?

If Sheila only put on the nightie after her shower, does this mean she did not go to bed ?

If no blood stained clothes were found at WHF, did Sheila have time to hide or dispose these after her shower ?

Why would Sheila hide or dispose clothes after her shower ?

Do all supporters agree Sheila had a shower prior to suicide ?

If Sheila did not have a shower prior to suicide, why is she blood, oil, lubricant and mark free ?

Would having a ritualistic cleansing not be one of the last things to be done, prior to religious reading and suicide ?  If so why didn't anyone outside see or hear this ?

It has been suggested the shower head was in a different position than usual. Is there a source for this ?

When was the last time a living friend or relative saw the shower head position ?

Could Neville, Nicolas, Daniel, June or Bamber have moved the shower head at another time ?

Should this whole allegation be retracted ?

There are no relevant religious books (except the Bible) that Sheila would have had regarding "ritual cleaning" ...

Sin is in effect a separation from God ie a moving away from God ...

Forgiveness (and lack of Sin) means a moving closer to God .... resulting in a great feeling ...

Christians seek God's forgiveness very often immediately after committing a Sin ...

They achieve this through a heartfelt genuine desire for it and most often by praying for it ...

Traditionally and practically washing (including showering) helps with the practice of seeking God's forgiveness ...

Some Christians do not engage (all the time or at all) in the washing side of seeking forgiveness but many many do ... and it does help ...

It is a very common occurrence ..

This is why for example many Christians (including Jesus) have been baptized in water - to secure (not in the case of Jesus who was sinless) the washing away of sin when they commit their life to God ...

The whole concept is fundamental to the Christian faith ...

I am sorry I cannot shed light on your other questions for you but I hope the above helps ...

[Adam]

I didn't know that.

It still doesn't explain why Sheila would have the bible next to her. As the bible promotes life and frowns upon murder and suicide.

I can't believe there are no other religious books which promote ritualistic cleansing.  There are so many diverse religions.

Anyway, it is time to close the shower issue. As you said you couldn't answer the other 21 questions.

Even the CT are not convinced Sheila took a shower. Suggesting it, but preferring to claim Neville simply collapsed when getting to the kitchen. Although the kitchen crime scene and Neville's condition refute this.

[Adam]

'Ritual purification is a feature of many religions. The aim of these rituals is to remove specifically defined uncleanliness prior to a particular type of activity, and especially prior to the worship of a deity. This ritual uncleanliness is not identical with ordinary physical impurity, such as dirt stains; nevertheless, body fluids are generally considered ritually unclean'.

[sherlock]

I didn't know that.

It still doesn't explain why Sheila would have the bible next to her. As the bible promotes life and frowns upon murder and suicide.

I can't believe there are no other religious books which promote suicide. There are so many diverse religions.

Anyway, it is time to close the shower issue. As you said you couldn't answer the other 21 questions.

Even the CT are not convinced Sheila took a shower. Suggesting it, but preferring to claim Neville simply collapsed when getting to the kitchen. Although the kitchen crime scene and Neville's condition refute this.

Murder and suicide are sins (albeit very serious ones)

After any sin is the possibiity of forgiveness (ie coming closer to God again) ...

If guilty then Sheila could well have been seeking forgiveness after murder using the Bible for this purpose ...

As i have posted elsewhere the page the Bible was open at was Psalm 51 .....

This is the exact page that a Christian with an unusually good knwledge of the Bible would turn to if seeking forgiveness for murder .....

I know this to be a fact ...

So i can say that either :



Sheila commited the murders ..


OR

the murderer had an excellent and unusually deep knowledge of the Bible ....



That is one of the very few facts i can state for certain beyond any doubt about this case ...




Even the Bible expert that analysed Psalm 51 for Jeremy's 2002 appeal failed to make the point ...
There are 2 ways different people have translated Psalm 51 - she gave a less useful (from Jeremy's point of view) translation and completely failed to mention that there are other translations of the Bible that would have make it much more relevant to the point of murder ....

There are 2 ways that Psalm 51 has been traditionally translated ...

It all centres around the word "bloodguilt"

One translation of the word "bloodguilt" (the one the "expert" gave) translates it as a sin worthy of being put to death for ...

The alternatively used translation of "bloodguilt" means having commited the sin of murder ...

Different versions (translations) of the Bible choose either one or the other of those meanings ...

The expert failed to mention the more relevant version and none of the Appeal Court Judges had sufficient knowledge of the Bible to pick up on that error ...



There probably are obscure rare crazy religous books out there that promote suicide but it is extremely unlikely that Sheila (or most Christians) would have them ...

I have heard it said however that Sheila had claimed to be a white witch - so it is possible if true that she may have had access to satanic literature - i would strongly guess that some of this literature promotes suicide - i am sure a lot of it promotes murder ...

But a lot of youngsters taking drugs in Essex in those days casually claimed to be white witches or similar and i seriously doubt many of them were serious about it or really knew much about it or indeed had access to such heavyweight literature ...

Much more likely if Sheila did do would be for a reason unrelated to any literature that she might have read ...

But she might well have turned to Psalm 51 once she had done so ...

[sherlock]

'Ritual purification is a feature of many religions. The aim of these rituals is to remove specifically defined uncleanliness prior to a particular type of activity, and especially prior to the worship of a deity. This ritual uncleanliness is not identical with ordinary physical impurity, such as dirt stains; nevertheless, body fluids are generally considered ritually unclean'.

You are absolutely right

But there are 2 different times when a religous person would use "Ritual purification"   

"Ritual purification" is done as a way to help move closer to God ...

So it can be done as you say prior to worship etc (ie to help move  closer to God)

OR

After sin (ie to help move closer to God) ...

Physical cleanliness as well as inner cleanliness can be important in both situations

Cleanliness is next to Godliness - in either case  ...