Is Jeremy Bamber a Psychopath?

[maggie]

We were more involved with our children than parents are now. I was strict on manners and that has rubbed off through the next generation,so no bad thing.
Yes,I might still live in the past in lots of ways but there is no better teaching than that and it's done me no harm.

I believe slapping/hitting a child is abuse, I wasn't hit nor were my children but we all have good manners.

[Steve_uk]

We were more involved with our children than parents are now. I was strict on manners and that has rubbed off through the next generation,so no bad thing.
Yes,I might still live in the past in lots of ways but there is no better teaching than that and it's done me no harm.

I remember playing cricket in the evening or playing out climbing trees; I never felt alone. Is it true now that Junior School children have to do homework..what kind of society have we become?  This follows on from parents suddenly finding religion and putting their pound coin on the collection plate during the Sunday service because the faith school is a better and cheaper option that the school down the road or the independent fee-paying school in the locality.

[lookout]

But there is a crime wave compared to lookout's era of the 1950s. One only needs to look at offences against the person, where there were more crimes committed in Liverpool last year than the whole of the country in any given year fifty years ago. People know their rights but never their responsibilities, and I'm afraid freedom of self-expression even if it entails committing a crime is part of that.

I agree Steve. Lack of discipline. Teachers unable to chastise their pupils.Police must handle hardened criminals with kid gloves,etc etc. It's got that way you're afraid to vent your feelings in case you upset anyone,so being suppressed now is by far different than having been suppressed all those years ago.

[Jane]

Surely the child would have remembered his holiday more than when it had been taken,or how ? Depending on age.

Lookout, I saw both points. I do indeed recognize that education comes in many different forms. M was back from the US and had to take the family holiday -which I'm certain the boys enjoyed- however, no one would have asked if it was convenient. It's just possible that there was a bonding issue going on OR the fear of losing friends. These things are HUGELY important to children. They NEED to fit. A's words suggested to me that there had been something going on that he hadn't felt able to talk about at the time.

[lookout]

Lookout, I saw both points. I do indeed recognize that education comes in many different forms. M was back from the US and had to take the family holiday -which I'm certain the boys enjoyed- however, no one would have asked if it was convenient. It's just possible that there was a bonding issue going on OR the fear of losing friends. These things are HUGELY important to children. They NEED to fit. A's words suggested to me that there had been something going on that he hadn't felt able to talk about at the time.

Quite possibly Jane.

[Stephanie]

But it's how lookout and many others including myself were brought up Jane. It may well not be the right thing in modern philosophy to repress one's feelings but when you hear so many children whining today over trifles I sometimes desperately want to give them a slap..

Then in your wisdom you would surely both recognise how that attitude may have affected and damaged some of the next generation?

Social services would have a field day if children were treated that way today.

I know one thing though Steve,for all our upbringing I don't ever remember there to have been any children with mental issues as there are now. ?
Yes,there are some unruly kids out there who wouldn't get away with it if I had anything to do with it.

And again - I rest my case!

[Stephanie]

I fully understand that you've been dealt a terrible blow in life. As with others in a similar situation,you tend to " use " your experience to " project " to others that because what happened to you,is a facsimile of Jeremy's case,it's got to be the same circumstances and everything else to go with it and this isn't the case at all. NO two cases are alike.

I have always believed Jeremy Bamber to be guilty! So how do you explain that? I have no experience of knowingly supporting a guilty man!?

And I've said it before and I say it again - I now recognise clearly Jeremy Bamber's manipulative and exploitative behaviours. His guilt shines bright!

[Stephanie]

"Should you warn the other victims of the psychopath?

The tricky part is how to do it most effectively. Because such manipulative men antagonize women against each other, it becomes difficult to share information in a civil manner..


I thought this pertinent...   

https://psychopathyawareness.wordpress.com/2011/11/08/should-you-warn-the-other-victims-of-the-psychopath/

[lookout]

I have always believed Jeremy Bamber to be guilty! So how do you explain that? I have no experience of knowingly supporting a guilty man!?

And I've said it before and I say it again - I now recognise clearly Jeremy Bamber's manipulative and exploitative behaviours. His guilt shines bright!

He might appear that way to you Steph,because if in the past you've experienced similar then it's difficult to break away from that fact if you imagine that you see it in others.
I wouldn't have said that JB had either of those behaviours that you've mentioned. I've seen it many a time in plenty of others,women included and it certainly is nothing like JB's overall behaviour.

[Caroline]

He might appear that way to you Steph,because if in the past you've experienced similar then it's difficult to break away from that fact if you imagine that you see it in others.
I wouldn't have said that JB had either of those behaviours that you've mentioned. I've seen it many a time in plenty of others,women included and it certainly is nothing like JB's overall behaviour.

He appears that way because he murdered 5 people for gain. Innocent people don't lie - they don't need to.

[Stephanie]

I have always believed Jeremy Bamber to be guilty! So how do you explain that? I have no experience of knowingly supporting a guilty man!?

And I've said it before and I say it again - I now recognise clearly Jeremy Bamber's manipulative and exploitative behaviours. His guilt shines bright!

He might appear that way to you Steph,because if in the past you've experienced similar then it's difficult to break away from that fact if you imagine that you see it in others.
I wouldn't have said that JB had either of those behaviours that you've mentioned. I've seen it many a time in plenty of others,women included and it certainly is nothing like JB's overall behaviour.

"Should you warn the other victims of the psychopath?

The tricky part is how to do it most effectively. Because such manipulative men antagonize women against each other, it becomes difficult to share information in a civil manner..

https://psychopathyawareness.wordpress.com/2011/11/08/should-you-warn-the-other-victims-of-the-psychopath/

[Stephanie]

He might appear that way to you Steph,because if in the past you've experienced similar then it's difficult to break away from that fact if you imagine that you see it in others.

I have always believed Jeremy Bamber to be guilty! Your post makes no sense!

[Stephanie]

https://psychopathyawareness.wordpress.com/2011/11/08/should-you-warn-the-other-victims-of-the-psychopath/

Have a read of this Lookout!

[lookout]

Have a read of this Lookout!

I don't need to read anything else. There's as much info on here to sink a ship and I'm talking about posts some of which leave little to the imagination in questionable psycopathy or not.

[Stephanie]

How Psychopaths Reveal Themselves

In addition to the above traits, psychopaths may also exhibit these characteristics according to Thomas Sheridan. These are characteristics to watch out for if your intuition raises a red flag.  Notice some commonalities: distortion and exaggeration, playing on sympathies in various ways, high entitlement and a feeling of being special, exploitiveness.

Physical:

little need for sleep, 4-5 hours tops
falls asleep instantly and wakes up instantly
wakes up in a sweat
eye dead or lifeless; piercing stare
faking cancer or other serious illnesses
hypochondriac
facial distortion when taking a picture
does not dream and fabricates dream stories
Personality

unreliable and broken promises
corrects others
condescending
righteous indignation
sycophantic
acting and looking busy
easily offended
easily bored
easily entitled to the best
quickly interested in cause and then loses interest
exploits friends, family, parents, elderly and handicapped
claims special relationship with god
flunks out of school and blames the institution
claims to be spy, assassin, special forces agent or clandestine agent
word salad  - uses technical and sophisticated language to pontificate while really saying nothing.
no creative talent
phony altruism

Relationships:

us vs. them you and me against the world
sexual promiscuity
history of brief or failed marriages
idealization followed by cold rejection
little interest in parenting
Psychopaths And Highly Sensitive People

http://beforeitsnews.com/health/2012/08/how-to-identify-a-psychopath-2444468.html