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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1155 on: March 11, 2022, 07:11:PM »

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1156 on: March 11, 2022, 07:24:PM »
Its cosmetic fillers and botox.

https://nationalpost.com/news/ever-wonder-why-vladimir-putin-doesnt-age-we-asked-some-cosmetic-surgeons
I'm sure he has undergone cosmetic procedures of some description, but if you stop the video on #1151 at 1.11 you will see the egregious puffiness, which short of him inserting pads in his face I doubt any aesthetic surgeon could produce.
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« Reply #1158 on: March 11, 2022, 10:04:PM »
So this is where everyone is hiding, anyone following this war on the telegrams?

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Re: Russia - worrying?
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« Reply #1160 on: March 11, 2022, 10:41:PM »
Not for the first time, I find myself out-of-sync with the rest of this Forum.  It appears to me that Russia is winning - slowly - and I think the reaction in the West has been ridiculous, and at times, quite offensive.  Ukraine is not a NATO member state or a Member State of the European Union (which has its own defence co-ordination).  Thus, there is no obligation, legal or moral, on Britain or EU Member States to side with Ukraine.

Most people are relying on mainstream media sources for their information about this war and any rationale or explanation for Russia's actions.  The problem with this is that the Western media will only report the 'NATO' point-of-view, which is essentially a Washington Beltway perspective on things, which means you are only hearing one side of the argument; and sure enough, some people on this thread are lapsing into the trap of demonising or monsterising Putin, rather than making an effort to understand the historical complexities and political nuances of the situation.

The UK and - to a large extent - the major European powers, have tagged along with the foolish policies of the United States, not always in their own interests.  For example, Germany would greatly benefit from an alliance with Russia, but instead cancels Nordstream 2 and falls in line with Washington, D.C.  It is true that Germany relies on the nuclear shield of NATO, but of what practical value is this?  Nobody who understands the situation deeply seriously thinks that Putin has designs on eastern Germany.

Britain itself would benefit from a more favourable attitude to Russia, but instead pursues this ludicrous course of interfering with the sovereignty of Russia and the property rights of Russians with economic interests in the United Kingdom.

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1161 on: March 12, 2022, 09:40:AM »
I wonder what Gorbachev thinks of all this ? I think he's still breathing ?

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1163 on: March 12, 2022, 03:12:PM »
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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1164 on: March 12, 2022, 04:46:PM »
This is a very interesting watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpzUCSdxi7k

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« Reply #1165 on: March 12, 2022, 06:02:PM »
This is a very interesting watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpzUCSdxi7k

This must have been known for quite a long time, which would provide Ukraine and its NATO advisors a strategy for suppressing Russian air superiority. In other words a potential advantage. Again, you cannot blame Ukraine for that. Russia should be aware of any shortcomings militarily, but it should also be aware of to what extent those shortcomings have been studied by other military forces.

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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1166 on: March 12, 2022, 06:15:PM »
This must have been known for quite a long time, which would provide Ukraine and its NATO advisors a strategy for suppressing Russian air superiority. In other words a potential advantage. Again, you cannot blame Ukraine for that. Russia should be aware of any shortcomings militarily, but it should also be aware of to what extent those shortcomings have been studied by other military forces.

Did you read the study I posted the other day on corruption and embezzlement in the Russian military?

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Re: Russia - worrying?
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Re: Russia - worrying?
« Reply #1168 on: March 12, 2022, 07:47:PM »
Did you read the study I posted the other day on corruption and embezzlement in the Russian military?

I don't think I did but I saw mention of it elsewhere. I do think he has put himself at risk (Putin). Maybe Lavrov is a softer target, but they say you should strike at the head. My thoughts on this haven't changed mind. We should not be getting just one side of the story. However, I have to also consider the multitude of nations that have turned against Russia due this action. Mind you, some of it from the trade sector is virtue signalling that snowballs -  McDonald's FFS.

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« Reply #1169 on: March 12, 2022, 09:51:PM »
Not for the first time, I find myself out-of-sync with the rest of this Forum.  It appears to me that Russia is winning - slowly - and I think the reaction in the West has been ridiculous, and at times, quite offensive.  Ukraine is not a NATO member state or a Member State of the European Union (which has its own defence co-ordination).  Thus, there is no obligation, legal or moral, on Britain or EU Member States to side with Ukraine.

Most people are relying on mainstream media sources for their information about this war and any rationale or explanation for Russia's actions.  The problem with this is that the Western media will only report the 'NATO' point-of-view, which is essentially a Washington Beltway perspective on things, which means you are only hearing one side of the argument; and sure enough, some people on this thread are lapsing into the trap of demonising or monsterising Putin, rather than making an effort to understand the historical complexities and political nuances of the situation.

The UK and - to a large extent - the major European powers, have tagged along with the foolish policies of the United States, not always in their own interests.  For example, Germany would greatly benefit from an alliance with Russia, but instead cancels Nordstream 2 and falls in line with Washington, D.C.  It is true that Germany relies on the nuclear shield of NATO, but of what practical value is this?  Nobody who understands the situation deeply seriously thinks that Putin has designs on eastern Germany.

Britain itself would benefit from a more favourable attitude to Russia, but instead pursues this ludicrous course of interfering with the sovereignty of Russia and the property rights of Russians with economic interests in the United Kingdom.
That's not surprising is it sir? You can't escape from Russia invading a sovereign state, encouraging insurgents in Luhansk and Donestk, when it's far from clear a majority wish to join Russia or even be part of an independent republic, not forgetting the annexation of Crimea. I'm sure British exporters would favour a more cordial relationship, but there have been incidents too numerous to mention in recent years to normalize relations.