Informatives - carried out by a gang of interferring Senior Officers...

[mike tesko]

The problem is, it can be interpreted both ways.

I think it's pushing it too far to believe that the term, ' on the far side of the bed", means or meant on the floor next to the bed,  the key words being, 'on the' and 'bed'....

[mike tesko]

I think it's pushing it too far to believe that the term, ' on the far side of the bed", means or meant on the floor next to the bed,  the key words being, 'on the' and 'bed'....

No mention whatsoever of the floor next to the bed...

[mike tesko]

Lets take it further, and say that the term 'on the far side of the bed', was reference to the body sat against the bedside cabinet, or upon it, or why not claim it was reference to Sheila's body being inside the wardrobe?

[mike tesko]

Lets take it further, and say that the term 'on the far side of the bed', was reference to the body sat against the bedside cabinet, or upon it, or why not claim it was reference to Sheila's body being inside the wardrobe?

'On the ... bed', means precisely what it was, Sheila's body was on the bed...

I believe...

[Caroline]

If you asked someone to get something for you from a bedside cabinet, you would simply say the bedside cabinet ON the right or left side of the bed.

[mike tesko]

If you asked someone to get something for you from a bedside cabinet, you would simply say the bedside cabinet ON the right or left side of the bed.

If Sheila's body had been on the floor when Craig and Miller saw it at 8.44am, then it would have been the simplist thing for both of them to have said, 'On the bedroom floor' or 'on the floor', why would a police surgeon and an Essex police detective choose the exact same phrase as to where Sheila's body actually was, by using the duplicate phrase, 'On the far side of the bed', if one or other, or both, meant the body they were talking about by 8.44am, was on the floor, not the bed? And anyway, off go Craig and Miller after their contradictory account, at 8.44am - then along comes 'Stan' Jones, and 'Mick' Clarke, and both enter the bedroom before leaving the scene to accompany Jeremy to his cottage to take a witness statement from him, and no sooner does Ann Eaton and the other relatives turn up, than Jones, or Clarke, or both, are breaking thier necks to inform everybody that Sheila's body was found on the bed in the main bedroom...

[mike tesko]

Jones and Clarke entered the bedroom after 9pm, which was some 16 minutes after Craig and Miller saw Sheila's body 'on the far side of the bed', which we are expected to believe actually meant that they saw her body on the floor. OK, but how does that explain why 16 minures or so later, Jones and Clarke saw Sheila's body on the bed?

Why would, and who would move Sheila's body from the floor (after 8.44am) and put her on the bed, at around 9am?

By 10 O'clock, Sheila's body was back on the floor, and she now had two bullet holes, in her throat...

[lookout]

I agree Mike,you'd say on the floor if that had been the case.

[mike tesko]

How did the rifle observed by WPC Jeapes, at 7.15am, that was leaning agaist the window, end up in police photographs taken on or after 10 O'clock, on top of Sheila Caffells, body?

[mike tesko]

The case was originally investigated, as beung 'four murders and a suicude, with complications'...

[mike tesko]

The case was originally investigated, as beung 'four murders and a suicude, with complications'...

One month later, it had turned into a case of ' five murders, with no complications'...

[mike tesko]

There were two main complications during the first month of the investigation, which police thought they could overcome by providing misinformation about how many shots had been fired during the incident?  One of the key pieces of information the police suppressed involved a confrontation downstairs in the kitchen between armed police, and Sheila. At this time Sheila got shot in the throat during a struggle with PS Woodcock as he was trying to squeeze through and around a small gap of the kitchen door. The direction this door opened was problematic to Woodcocks entry into the kitchen, because it meant that the muzzle end of the rifle he was carrying, was pointing inwards toward the external wall of the kitchen he was trying to get into, leaving it open to the possibility that someone on the other side of the door could grab the barrel before he could fire a shot off at them ..

[Caroline]

There were two main complications during the first month of the investigation, which police thought they could overcome by providing misinformation about how many shots had been fired during the incident?  One of the key pueces of information the police suppressed involved a confrontation downstairs in the kitchen between armed police, and Sheila. At this time Sheila got shot in the throat during a struggle with PS Woodcock as he was trying to squeeze through and around a small gap of the kitchen door. The direction this door opened was problematic to Woodcocks entry into the kitchen, because it meant that the muzzle end of the rifle he was carrying, was point inwards toqard the external wall if the kutchen he was tryubg to get into, leaving it open to the possibility that someone on the other side of the door could grab the barrel before he could fire a shot off at them ..

Why would police suppress that they shot Sheila? Suspects often get killed during armed confrontations, even if it was accidentally, it wouldn't warrant the framing of an innocent man. 

[mike tesko]

Why would police suppress that they shot Sheila? Suspects often get killed during armed confrontations, even if it was accidentally, it wouldn't warrant the framing of an innocent man.

They didn't suppress the fact that they had shot Sheila, or at least it was not just that police shot Sheila once, it was covered up because after they had shot her, she was pronounced as being dead at 8.44 (one hour after Woodcock shot Sheila in the kitchen during a struggle). That is where it became problematic for Essex police. At 8.44am, Sheila was supposed to have been officially dead, and had been presumed dead from as long ago as 7.37am, when it had been reported from within the farmhouse that two bodies had been found upon entry, the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female...

Once the police surgeon pronounced Sheila as being dead at 8.44am, it prevented the truth being told by police, about Sheila being shot downstairs, pronounced dead upstairs on the bed, and a loaded rifle being taken from its resting place against the bedroom window, and moved onto Sheila's body as part of a training exercise, which went dramatically wrong, because nobody checked the rifle to see if it was still loaded with live rounds, and this led to Sheilas death in yet another twist of fate...
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[Caroline]

They didn't suppress the fact that they had shot Sheila, or at least it was not just that police shot Sheila once, it was covered up because after they had shot her, she was pronounced as being dead at 8.44 (one hour after Woodcock shot Sheila in the kitchen during a struggle). That is where it became problematic for Essex police. At 8.44am, Sheila was supposed to have been officially dead, and had been presumed dead from as long ago as 7.37am, when it had been reported from within the farmhoyse that two bodies had been found upon entry, the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female...

Once the police surgeon pronounced Sheila as being dead at 8.44am, it prevened the truth being told by police, about Sheila being shot downstairs, pronounced dead upstairs on the bed, and a loaded rifle being taken from its resting place against the bedroom window, and moved onto Sheila's body as part of a training exercise, which went dramatically wrong, because nobody checked the rifle to see if it was still loaded with live rounds, and this led to Sheilas death in yet another tqist of fate...
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Are you saying you believe that Sheila was shot 'once' by Woodcock on entry to WHF (but wasn't dead) and then again by someone else during the training exercise?