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Offline Caroline

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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #135 on: October 17, 2014, 11:40:AM »
EP craftily used the carrot and stick approach with JM. What we don't know is whether she was offered a financial reward part-way through her statements.?

I'm surprised that nobody picked up on this as being a possibility. ::)

Highly unlikely Lookout when they had other means available.
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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #136 on: October 17, 2014, 12:12:PM »
Highly unlikely Lookout when they had other means available.






They had very little to speak of quite honestly.

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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #137 on: October 17, 2014, 05:06:PM »
Only when she was being cross examined presumably? So the court had to be adjourned. I really cannot figure out why people keep defending this obnoxious woman? They sent Maxine Carr to prison for doing exactly what Mugford did.

Maxine Carr pleaded guilty to lying.  She admitted she lied and gave her boyfriend a false alibi by saying he was with her at the time of the murders. Far form her going to police to admit she lied police prove it by other means.

Julie did not lie about being with Jeremy to give him an alibi she just didn't tell everything she knew but she had no legal obligation to tell everything she knew.  That is the big difference.  Omitting what you know and lying are very different in legal terms. 

The only potential lie she told to police is when she said he was worried and wanted her advice of what to do. I personally find that such is in conflict with what she admitted to later.  If she left it at him saying soemthing was wrong at WHF that would be one thinkg but she wrote in her statement he was not sure what to do. Her account a month later was that he told her things had been going well and tha the had not been to bed yet.  Nothing about saying he was unsure what to do and worried.  But if they wanted to charge her for that it would be easy for her to add such and hard for them to prove otherwise.  Trying her for such a limited thing in light of her help would accomplish little.

If she helped encourage him to commit the crimes that would be worthy of punishment but she claims she didn't and Jeremy refused to talk so no basis for charging her. 

   


 
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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #138 on: October 17, 2014, 05:16:PM »
Maybe one day when Bamber accepts it is all over, he will tell the truth and in turn we'll finally learn who knew what and when.

Unfortunately for you and your mates that's never going to happen

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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #139 on: October 17, 2014, 05:30:PM »
Jeremy Bamber got Julie involved in the robbery at Osea Caravan Park and thought that this would have been enough to assure her silence.  He was sorely mistaken.


Ridiculous post

Who told you that Julie?????
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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #140 on: October 17, 2014, 05:33:PM »
Unfortunately for you and your mates that's never going to happen

The truth always comes out

The truth is already out, he committed the crimes.  The finer details he will likely take to the grave rather than admit the truth and then provide info on the details.

You have no ability at all to rebut the evidence that proves his guilt so don't try instead you just post childish things and demonstrate you know nothing about the facts of the case at all.

You hurt his cause instead of help when you demonstrate no knowledge about the case at all and just make up things.

   
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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #141 on: October 17, 2014, 05:34:PM »

Ridiculous post

Who told you that Julie?????

Try establishing it is wrong let alone the higher burden of estbalishing it is ridiculous.  He clearly took her along with him and involved her.  Trying to pretend otherwise is ridiculous and dishonest.
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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #142 on: October 17, 2014, 05:43:PM »
Unfortunately for you and your mates that's never going to happen

The truth always comes out

I don't think it will happen either, he will never tell the truth. But he will also never get out of prison - even Bamber supporters will admit that if they are honest.

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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #143 on: October 17, 2014, 05:47:PM »
Try establishing it is wrong let alone the higher burden of estbalishing it is ridiculous.  He clearly took her along with him and involved her.  Trying to pretend otherwise is ridiculous and dishonest.
I'm not sure that he got her involved just to secure her silence on the murders? That has yet to be established. At the moment is is only an assumption. She had shown herself quite an accomplished thief by herself when she stole all that stuff from various stores with a stolen cheque book.
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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #144 on: October 17, 2014, 06:42:PM »
I don't think it will happen either, he will never tell the truth. But he will also never get out of prison - even Bamber supporters will admit that if they are honest.

Truth is Mat you do not know Jeremy was responsible
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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #145 on: October 17, 2014, 06:47:PM »
Jeremy Bamber got Julie involved in the robbery at Osea Caravan Park and thought that this would have been enough to assure her silence.  He was sorely mistaken.

Facts are Julie had committed Numerous robberies which she should have been charged individually and this points clearly to Julie was the one who suggested the caravan park robbery

Jeremy had NO record

Julie has proved her obsession with money
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« Reply #146 on: October 17, 2014, 06:52:PM »
Truth is Mat you do not know Jeremy was responsible
Fact

Tehre is enough evidence to prove Sheila was not responsible. Ignoring it proves your ignorance, you're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #147 on: October 17, 2014, 07:11:PM »
Tehre is enough evidence to prove Sheila was not responsible. Ignoring it proves your ignorance, you're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

Mat could you provide a list of all the robberies Mugford carried out as u r an expert on the case
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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #148 on: October 17, 2014, 07:18:PM »
Mat could you provide a list of all the robberies Mugford carried out as u r an expert on the case

Why are you constantly asking people to list Julie's crimes? Colins affairs? You've done more research on these people than anyone, I'm sure you think you already know the answers. When you catch up with the rest of the forum and have gotten tot he nights of the murders, since you still seem to be talking about incidents that happened long before the night of the crime, then you'll have something to actually discuss.

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Re: Video about Julie Mugford
« Reply #149 on: October 17, 2014, 07:26:PM »
Jeremys' past incidents got him arrested !! Now't else. He should have manned up and opened his mouth about his ex-girlfriend,sod being loyal.