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Re: The campaign against Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2014, 07:09:PM »
 Jeremy did go to WHF on the eve of the funerals,JM and a few friends went with him to collect some glasses and crockery which he said " were for the wake ". All had been drinking.. While there,he was looking around the farmhouse for cash that his father may have left somewhere.
Jeremy had picked up odd bits and pieces,then they all went off to a local restaurant.
 Would this have been the time when he helped himself to a few quid from his dads' wallet ? Why not have taken the whole lot,wallet and all ? Nobody would have been any the wiser.

I was led to believe that it was a few days that Jeremy had brought himself to go into the farmhouse,and that was at the request of AE.


Jeremys' need for ready cash was because at that particular time,he knew he'd have had to have waited at least 4 months for the probate,possibly longer because of the complexities of his fathers' will,,and again,this was another reason for him to have sold what he could from the farmhouse to raise some  cash,as he'd no longer receive a wage from his father,so at that point,it was need and not greed. Obviously at the age of 24,you'd be hard-pushed to find a material person anyway,hence the reason why the relatives were up in arms about what went to Sothebys'. He had bills to pay. Was he offered financial assistance meanwhile ? I don't think so. Or any assistance for that matter ? Nope.

However,any money raised was spent on a weekend in Amsterdam with JM and BC.

A close family would have taken him to one side to give him some advice,,but this wasn't a close family,which at the time,was probably an advantage ! Because while Jeremy was putting his loss behind him in his own way,,others were phoning/visiting police officers dealing with their own losses of sorts by writing or phoning to the " top brass " in the force telling them how dissatisfied they were with the non-investigation and that they themselves were not being given a fair hearing about their side of the case. Although none of them knew what they were looking for until it was " found ",,along with several other clues ?? Which they said that the" police in their carelessness had overlooked ".

ALL the officers after their investigations,were/had been satisfied that it was 4 murders and a suicide,as were other professionals who were involved,,but the weight was behind the fact that a young woman ( who couldn't watch a chickens' neck being wrung ) had killed all her family. 

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Re: The campaign against Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2014, 07:14:PM »
Jeremy did go to WHF on the eve of the funerals,JM and a few friends went with him to collect some glasses and crockery which he said " were for the wake ". All had been drinking.. While there,he was looking around the farmhouse for cash that his father may have left somewhere.
Jeremy had picked up odd bits and pieces,then they all went off to a local restaurant.
 Would this have been the time when he helped himself to a few quid from his dads' wallet ? Why not have taken the whole lot,wallet and all ? Nobody would have been any the wiser.

I was led to believe that it was a few days that Jeremy had brought himself to go into the farmhouse,and that was at the request of AE on 12th August and it was then that he asked about the wallet.


Jeremys' need for ready cash was because at that particular time,he knew he'd have had to have waited at least 4 months for the probate,possibly longer because of the complexities of his fathers' will,,and again,this was another reason for him to have sold what he could from the farmhouse to raise some  cash,as he'd no longer receive a wage from his father,so at that point,it was need and not greed. Obviously at the age of 24,you'd be hard-pushed to find a material person anyway,hence the reason why the relatives were up in arms about what went to Sothebys'. He had bills to pay. Was he offered financial assistance meanwhile ? I don't think so. Or any assistance for that matter ? Nope.

However,any money raised was spent on a weekend in Amsterdam with JM and BC.

A close family would have taken him to one side to give him some advice,,but this wasn't a close family,which at the time,was probably an advantage ! Because while Jeremy was putting his loss behind him in his own way,,others were phoning/visiting police officers dealing with their own losses of sorts by writing or phoning to the " top brass " in the force telling them how dissatisfied they were with the non-investigation and that they themselves were not being given a fair hearing about their side of the case. Although none of them knew what they were looking for until it was " found ",,along with several other clues ?? Which they said that the" police in their carelessness had overlooked ".

ALL the officers after their investigations,were/had been satisfied that it was 4 murders and a suicide,as were other professionals who were involved,,but the weight was behind the fact that a young woman ( who couldn't watch a chickens' neck being wrung ) had killed all her family.

The funeral was AfTER AE asked him up to WHF and that was the first time he's been there since the murders.
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Re: The campaign against Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2014, 07:16:PM »
Not according to Claire Powell,Caroline.

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Re: The campaign against Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2014, 07:21:PM »
Not according to Claire Powell,Caroline.

Not sure what you're referring to Lookout? He may have gone to the house before the funeral BUT he also went on 12 August at the request of AE and this was the first time he's been back since the murders. This was when he asked about the wallet. It's in AE statement.
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Re: The campaign against Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2014, 07:33:PM »
Not sure what you're referring to Lookout? He may have gone to the house before the funeral BUT he also went on 12 August at the request of AE and this was the first time he's been back since the murders. This was when he asked about the wallet. It's in AE statement.





This was on the eve the funerals,sorry.

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Re: The campaign against Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2014, 07:52:PM »




This was on the eve the funerals,sorry.

Right but he returned to WHF on 12th August on the request of AE - BEFORE the funerals which weren't until 15th or 16th Aug
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Re: The campaign against Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2014, 08:13:PM »
Right but he returned to WHF on 12th August on the request of AE - BEFORE the funerals which weren't until 15th or 16th Aug




Yes,,I remember now. Though I hadn't known about the time that he and his friends went in,,but I remember it said that AE had invited him,and had forgotten if it was before or after the funerals,as they were held a week or so after the tragedies.

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Re: The campaign against Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2014, 08:14:PM »
Have you read Claire Powells' version at all,Caroline ?

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Re: The campaign against Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2014, 08:22:PM »
I was thinking as I was reading that and the thought suddenly came to me that if that had been my family murdered in that house and I went in there I would probably be inconsolable. Jeremy wasn't. I suppose people are different in that way. That would devastate me forever.

As far as I remember from AE´s statement, Jeremy did break down. He also very reluctantly went into the rooms upstairs. The worst two rooms were the twins´ room and Sheila´s. He practically crept through the corridor towards the twins´room, but when AE told him that she had removed the beds and made up the room as it was when Sheila had it growing up at the farm, he went in there with Julie.
AE had to tell him that nothing had happened in Sheila´s room before he would enter.

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« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2014, 08:40:PM »
Interesting Alias. I'm not sure that I would ever get over such a thing?

That would be hard, can´t even go there in my wildest imagination.

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Re: The campaign against Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2014, 08:42:PM »
I was thinking as I was reading that and the thought suddenly came to me that if that had been my family murdered in that house and I went in there I would probably be inconsolable. Jeremy wasn't. I suppose people are different in that way. That would devastate me forever.
You have to remember Jeremy had been prescribed valium which can numb emotions especially mixed with alcohol it can cause hallucinations as well.

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« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2014, 08:45:PM »
That would be hard, can´t even go there in my wildest imagination.
I know but shock is weird and our brains can block out all sorts of emotions which are too difficult for us to deal with and of course the drugs, prescribed like valium and the cannabis and alcohol etc. Dulls everything I would think.

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Re: The campaign against Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2014, 08:49:PM »
I know but shock is weird and our brains can block out all sorts of emotions which are too difficult for us to deal with and of course the drugs, prescribed like valium and the cannabis and alcohol etc. Dulls everything I would think.

I know. I did say that he actually had a breakdown upon entering the house, so I am not saying he was indifferent - the opposite.  :)

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Re: The campaign against Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #43 on: July 10, 2014, 09:17:PM »
Have you read Claire Powells' version at all,Caroline ?

Hi Lookout, soz, had to take the dog out - no, I think that's the only one I haven't read. Is it any good?
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Re: The campaign against Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #44 on: July 10, 2014, 09:23:PM »
Hi Lookout, soz, had to take the dog out - no, I think that's the only one I haven't read. Is it any good?
I saw it on Amazon for just over a quid a few weeks ago.