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 There has been no new medication to treat schizophrenia for the past 60 years ! Speaks volumes.

 Now,medics are looking into DNA testing for the gene,as it's stated that 1 in a 100 will develop it.

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There has been no new medication to treat schizophrenia for the past 60 years ! Speaks volumes.

 Now,medics are looking into DNA testing for the gene,as it's stated that 1 in a 100 will develop it.
Hi lookout. I was listening to the radio this morning. The news spoke about this. They said about the same as you, that there has not been much advance in the way of new medicines in the last 40 years. The interesting bit was that apparently all the medication that is used in order to control schizophrenia has always been unreliable and has many side effects. There is a call to the medical profession to make new efforts in combatting this illness.

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Hi lookout. I was listening to the radio this morning. The news spoke about this. They said about the same as you, that there has not been much advance in the way of new medicines in the last 40 years. The interesting bit was that apparently all the medication that is used in order to control schizophrenia has always been unreliable and has many side effects. There is a call to the medical profession to make new efforts in combatting this illness.






Hi Grahame,,I've been saying for long enough now that it's hit and miss with each individual patient,,that " one size doesn't fit all " as regards the treatment. In fact,a lot of the treatment has adverse effects and reverts the illness back,worse than its original state.

I firmly believe that this is what happened in Sheilas' case,and by her own request had her injection reduced in strength. Once in the system,intramuscularly,there's not a lot you can do,the damage is already done. I swear that this drug was unsuitable for Sheila.
This is what happens in private medicine,she'd have been much better attending an NHS hospital where more time is spent in diagnosing rather than dishing out expensive medication which to my mind,made her worse.

Maybe people will sit up and take notice now and look at the backgrounds of these people,which it invariably starts,,then treat accordingly-----------not always with medication either.
 

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 Sheila needed reassurance,kindness and above all,love,none of which you can get on prescription.

 Understanding and encouragement too,poor girl. With the right background,she'd have been fine.So sad.

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Hi Grahame,,I've been saying for long enough now that it's hit and miss with each individual patient,,that " one size doesn't fit all " as regards the treatment. In fact,a lot of the treatment has adverse effects and reverts the illness back,worse than its original state.

I firmly believe that this is what happened in Sheilas' case,and by her own request had her injection reduced in strength. Once in the system,intramuscularly,there's not a lot you can do,the damage is already done. I swear that this drug was unsuitable for Sheila.
This is what happens in private medicine,she'd have been much better attending an NHS hospital where more time is spent in diagnosing rather than dishing out expensive medication which to my mind,made her worse.

Maybe people will sit up and take notice now and look at the backgrounds of these people,which it invariably starts,,then treat accordingly-----------not always with medication either.
It's true these psychotic drugs were very hit and miss and caused more side effects even if the helped the initial symptoms. Modern psychotic drugs are much better, haloperidol isn't used much these days, however mental illness is a Cinderella complaint and considered very unattractive. There does need to be massive research carried out which requires massive amounts of money. Am not convinced the government is willing to invest the amounts needed ..... Doubt it will attract many votes but it would certainly give many people a happier and more comfortable life.
I agree Lookout the meds probably made Sheila and many other people worse. This is no doubt one reason PS sufferers cut back or stop their meds, the side effects Are so unpleasant unfortunately reducing or stopping treatment also leads to other miseries and disasters.

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Sheila needed reassurance,kindness and above all,love,none of which you can get on prescription.

 Understanding and encouragement too,poor girl. With the right background,she'd have been fine.So sad.
I cannot agree with that Lookout, Sheila was diagnosed with schizophrenia which is a mental ill ess sadly not cured by love and care. There Are many loving families supporting and loving PS sufferers it makes no difference, they still disrupt, hate those who love and try to help them, fear and suffer in spite of all that, they also kill irrationally because of delusions.
At the same time many PS sufferers do ok on meds it depends on many things to do with type of psychosis. Those who suffer from religious delusions do tend to be more violent.
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I cannot agree with that Lookout, Sheila was diagnosed with schizophrenia which is a mental ill ess sadly not cured by love and care. There Are many loving families supporting and loving PS sufferers it makes no difference, they still disrupt, hate those who love and try to help them, fear and suffer in spite of all that, they also kill irrationally because of delusions.
At the same time many PS sufferers do ok on meds it depends on many things to do with type of psychosis. Those who suffer from religious delusions do tend to be more violent.





Strange how a lot of mental illnesses have religious connotations in them. I found this years ago when I worked at Rainhill,,and yes,these were the violent ones who were intoxicated by the " devil ".
Sheila was initially scared of religion and had nightmares as a child caused by the " teachings " of her mother. Colin was scared that this would happen to his boys,as they were extremely vulnerable children,who Sheila had once remarked to her friend that she was scared of them turning out " gay " ( probably not the word she used then ) so used to take them to the park a lot to " toughen them up ",as she put it.
It was June who'd been diagnosed,latterly,with religious psychosis. Sheila wasn't that bad,although after her last spell in hospital in the March,she had said that she'd turned to religion.
Was this in keeping with her mother,or was there an ulterior motive ? We'll never know.

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Strange how a lot of mental illnesses have religious connotations in them. I found this years ago when I worked at Rainhill,,and yes,these were the violent ones who were intoxicated by the " devil ".
Sheila was initially scared of religion and had nightmares as a child caused by the " teachings " of her mother. Colin was scared that this would happen to his boys,as they were extremely vulnerable children,who Sheila had once remarked to her friend that she was scared of them turning out " gay " ( probably not the word she used then ) so used to take them to the park a lot to " toughen them up ",as she put it.
It was June who'd been diagnosed,latterly,with religious psychosis. Sheila wasn't that bad,although after her last spell in hospital in the March,she had said that she'd turned to religion.
Was this in keeping with her mother,or was there an ulterior motive ? We'll never know.
Religious maybe. Christian no:
Quote from: 2 Timothy 1vs 6+7
   Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands. 7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
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