Was there still enough evidence without the silencer ?

[Caroline]

The claim Bonnet fielded a call from Nevill is impossible.  Bonnet's line was an internal HQ police line.  Calling 999 would not result in Bonnet answering nor would calling the main Chemsford police station line.  The station he was at could only be reached by someone who knew the unpublished extension number he was at.  His job was to dispatch cars and keep incident reports for each that police reported to him not to field calls from the public. 

Jeremy phoned Julie around 3AM which means Nevill would have to have phoned him earlier than this.  The notion that Nevill was still alive at 3:36AM and no shooting had taken place but that Sheila then killed everyone including herself prior to police arriving is simply not credible. 

At the end of the day though one wondering if Nevill called police would have to search the records of those manning the 999 lines and published police lines for evidence of Nevill phoning directly and somehow not reporting the incident to Bonnet but to someone else who was unaware Bonnet already was handling the incident reports. 

At most Bonnet would be in a position to conceal that a cop or 999 operator reported to HQ that Nevill had phoned them. 

But that is not what is being alleged. It is being alleged he fielded a call directly which is impossible and that allegation is mainly because of he quoted what Nevill supposedly told Jeremy.

You're NOT listening!  COLP asked for the original log of the phone call (or at least an EXACT copy of it) to see if it had been altered. However, what they got looked the same until you look at it carefully then you can see that Tolleshunt is spelled incorrectly in the copy which means it was NOT the original log or an EXACT copy. Now why didn't they send the original?

[Jan]

Which goes to prove he is not innocent because instead of being asleep without an alibi other than sleeping he invented the alibi of being home when Nevill phoned. He made up an alibi because he is guilty.  He messed up the frame job and thus got caught.

Or he could be telling the truth - and the phone call happened - so does not PROVE anything

[Adam]

Jeremy said 'no comment' when the police asked him why he called Julie. 

In court Jeremy could not say 'No comment'. So said he phoned Julie because he was worried.

Poor Jeremy.

[Jan]

Jeremy said 'no comment' when the police asked him why he called Julie. 

In court Jeremy could not say 'No comment'. So said he phoned Julie because he was worried.

Poor Jeremy.

??What does this show? Nothing - perhaps he did feel guilty that because of the quick phone call and no reply when he rang back - that he did not react properly to what his father was trying to tell him.

He knew his sister had the gun , he knew his father did not like getting the police involved , He did not know she had shot or was about to shoot anyone and he probably was half asleep - so he made probably what were some bad decisions ? And if he was telling the truth then his father did as well?

If he had called the police instead of Jeremy  then Jeremy would not have been implicated - which still makes me believe that at the time of the call Neville had not been shot.

[grahameb]

Jeremy said 'no comment' when the police asked him why he called Julie. 

In court Jeremy could not say 'No comment'. So said he phoned Julie because he was worried.

Poor Jeremy.

I have read Jeremy's statement and as far as I can see he was very co-operative towards them.

[Adam]

??What does this show? Nothing - perhaps he did feel guilty that because of the quick phone call and no reply when he rang back - that he did not react properly to what his father was trying to tell him.

He knew his sister had the gun , he knew his father did not like getting the police involved , He did not know she had shot or was about to shoot anyone and he probably was half asleep - so he made probably what were some bad decisions ? And if he was telling the truth then his father did as well?

If he had called the police instead of Jeremy  then Jeremy would not have been implicated - which still makes me believe that at the time of the call Neville had not been shot.

Thought Neville did call the police. Said Jeremy decades later. Contradicting his claims on the night.

Surprised the police did not tell him Neville had phoned them. It was murder/suicide for a month.

[lookout]

EP knew it was murder/suicide right from the start. It was the relatives who then took over,thus putting EP on the back seat,so in effect,the relatives were allowed to override what had already been established,even going against what the pathologist had said. That's how much clout the Masons' have got,namely RWB !

[Jan]

Thought Neville did call the police. Said Jeremy decades later. Contradicting his claims on the night.

Surprised the police did not tell him Neville had phoned them. It was murder/suicide for a month.

But you guilters are giving your version which says he did not - and the EP reords of the timings are ALL OVER the place so if he did how do we know for certain it was not AFTER he called JB and that is why the phone was engaged - after all EP checked the line to confirmm that fact .

You PROVE to me that NB did not call JB first then realised things were more serious than he thought ( heard a shot) and then tried to call the police?

[Adam]

I have read Jeremy's statement and as far as I can see he was very co-operative towards them.

[Adam]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4847.0.html

[grahameb]

Thought Neville did call the police. Said Jeremy decades later. Contradicting his claims on the night.

Surprised the police did not tell him Neville had phoned them. It was murder/suicide for a month.

No that is wrong. He found a second telephone log as he then thought. It was that second log that apparently contradicted the log that was presented in court. So he didn't actually contradict himself. He thought that he had found a new piece of evidence that apparently showed that Ralph phoned the police. His lawyers advised him not to use it in an appeal, but he didn't listen to them because he was convinced that this was a new piece of evidence. It was not him suddenly changed his mind. So in effect he was not at fault and did not lie. If you had properly read about it you would not come up with such damaging remarks, you should be interested in whole truths and not half truths. That is being dishonest.

[grahameb]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4847.0.html

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1091.msg33705.html#msg33705

[Adam]

Why have you posted Jeremys WS. What has that got to do with his appalling attitude when interviewed.

My view with the police interview is Jeremy knew he was guilty. He also knew the police knew he was guilty. So there was no point pretending.

Which explained his singing answers etc. Thread link above.

However Jeremy was not going to admit anything. There was money to inherit.  The police were going to have to get a guilty verdict in court. You know what ? They did.

[grahameb]

Why have you posted Jeremys WS. What has that got to do with his appalling attitude when interviewed.

My view with the police interview is Jeremy knew he was guilty. He also knew the police knew he was guilty. So there was no point pretending.

Which explained his singing answers etc. Thread link above.

However Jeremy was not going to admit anything. There was money to inherit.  The police were going to have to get a guilty verdict in court. You know what ? They did.

Because this shows that he was actually helpful to the police and not as you say that he was unhelpful. This is the actual information he gave. By the way neither does it record the near gestapo techniques that the police used against him. What you have posated is just something you read in some book. Why don't you go to official sources to prove your points and not to some second hand information as to what happened, which may not have happened.

[lookout]

 You know what ? You and others like you are in for a rude awakening !!