Is Sheila guilty?

[nugnug]

Jeremy wasn't searched for blood or GSR so how could any be found?  He had the ability to clean up and change anway upon arriving home.

Sheila would have neither the ability to clean herself up or change her clothes after killing herself nor the ability to move her own body let alone put the suppressor away.

Sheila also would have no reason to change or washup and there is nothing to suggest she did.  She would not have the ability to repai broken nails as she would have suffered from bludgeoning someone with a rifle.

The simple fact that Sheila can't have killed herself and Jeremy was aware of the murders is sufficent to convict him since he could be aware if he were the killer.  So the fact he was never searched for blood and hence none was doesn't prove him innocent in the least.

theres no evedence he was aware of the murders that i can see.

and weather you would break wile hitting someone with a riffle is pure speculation theirs no definite answer.

and therss absolutely no evidence she couldn't of shot herself.

it cant be proved she did but no evidence she dident ethere.

[lookout]

 Jeremy had left himself wide open a few times,unsuspectingly and innocently,,while the police seized their opportunity.He was easy meat. Who else could the police blame ?

[scipio_usmc]

theres no evedence he was aware of the murders that i can see.

and weather you would break wile hitting someone with a riffle is pure speculation theirs no definite answer.

and therss absolutely no evidence she couldn't of shot herself.

it cant be proved she did but no evidence she dident ethere.

It is impossible for her to have shot herself and put the suppressor away and impossible for her to have moved her body flat after being killed.  She can't have killed herself.

Someone else did it and framed Sheila that leaves only Jeremy who knew because he is the one who called police and blamed her.

If he didn't insert himself and call police and stayed quiet then they would not have been able to establish he did it.  By inserting himself into the situation to blame Sheila and frame her he established that he did it including staging the bullets which he admitted to doing.  Thanks to the fact only 20 bullets were missing from the box and 25 had been used it is obvious they were staged after and he knew they were there and stated he left them there.


 

[nugnug]

that depend the absurd story of how the silencer was found.

[Patti]

It is impossible for her to have shot herself and put the suppressor away and impossible for her to have moved her body flat after being killed.  She can't have killed herself.

Someone else did it and framed Sheila that leaves only Jeremy who knew because he is the one who called police and blamed her.

If he didn't insert himself and call police and stayed quiet then they would not have been able to establish he did it.  By inserting himself into the situation to blame Sheila and frame her he established that he did it including staging the bullets which he admitted to doing.  Thanks to the fact only 20 bullets were missing from the box and 25 had been used it is obvious they were staged after and he knew they were there and stated he left them there.


 

If you are saying that the moderator was on the rifle then the pathologist is not making a correct diagnosis that the marks on NB'S arms were done with the barrel of of the rifle.   

[maggie]

well mathew MacDonald has a cast iron albi the fact mugford brought him in it makes her word rather suspect.
did she have some sort of personal grudge agianst him.

She may have done but it seems Liz Rimmington had an affair with him, in fact it is said she lived with him.
Those two, Liz and Julie, spent the evening before Liz went to the police together possibly talking about their exs. I find that quite interesting,
Maybe there were two scorned women, constancy doesn't seem to be one of MMs things judging by his statements.
Am not sure where this is from, think it was in a book but not sure which.
Maybe someone else does?

[scipio_usmc]

If you are saying that the moderator was on the rifle then the pathologist is not making a correct diagnosis that the marks on NB'S arms were done with the barrel of of the rifle.   

The assessment was that some marks were made by the stock.  Moreover, the sights and barrel could scratch him whether the suppressor was attached or not.

Only the muzzle would be hidden by the suppressor. 

 

[scipio_usmc]

She may have done but it seems Liz Rimmington had an affair with him, in fact it is said she lived with him.
Those two, Liz and Julie, spent the evening before Liz went to the police together possibly talking about their exs. I find that quite interesting,
Maybe there were two scorned women, constancy doesn't seem to be one of MMs things judging by his statements.
Am not sure where this is from, think it was in a book but not sure which.
Maybe someone else does?

Julie recounted the hitman claim before this supposed brainstorming before she went to police.

At any rate, why would she spend days making up detailed acocunts of when he told her he wanted his family dead for nothing to help her by adding Liz's ex to the conspiracy?  It would cause only a minor inconvenience to him and in the process ruin what would have taken a very long time to make up.

Why would she put so much effort into making up a long string anyway.  Saying he was talking about it the month before the murders and then night before would have been sufficient. 

[Alias]

I have always wondered just how iron cast MM´s alibi was. I believe it was a girlfriend who said she had been with him that night.

[nugnug]

if it wasnt cast iron im sure the police would of managed to discredit it.

[maggie]

I have always wondered just how iron cast MM´s alibi was. I believe it was a girlfriend who said she had been with him that night.

I do wonder myself Alias, not sure who the lucky lady was but the police seemed convinced so it does make you believe it was cast iron.   

[scipio_usmc]

I have always wondered just how iron cast MM´s alibi was. I believe it was a girlfriend who said she had been with him that night.

He was out of town staying with friends.  He would have been too far away the last time he had been seen by third persons (other than his girlfriend) to have been able to reach WHF in time to commit the murders and indeed also had a girlfriend who said he was in bed with her after everyone turned in.

Also the claims of him being a mercinary in Africa were little more than rumors.   

I don't understand why people who insist Jeremy is innocent and Julie a liar would question his alibi.

The police surely would have questioned it though if there were any hope of blaming him. Giving him a reduced sentence ot out Jeremy would have pleased them. Even if the evidence they found against him was not enough to get him to turn on Jeremy they still would have liked to use it to establish he did it and then link him to Jeremy through Julie.   

[Alias]

He was out of town staying with friends.  He would have been too far away the last time he had been seen by third persons (other than his girlfriend) to have been able to reach WHF in time to commit the murders and indeed also had a girlfriend who said he was in bed with her after everyone turned in.

Also the claims of him being a mercinary in Africa were little more than rumors.   

I don't understand why people who insist Jeremy is innocent and Julie a liar would question his alibi.

The police surely would have questioned it though if there were any hope of blaming him. Giving him a reduced sentence ot out Jeremy would have pleased them. Even if the evidence they found against him was not enough to get him to turn on Jeremy they still would have liked to use it to establish he did it and then link him to Jeremy through Julie.

You have demonstrated time and time again that you have no clue where I stand regarding this case. I have to ask you again: stop lumpng me together with everybody else, my stance is mine, and mine alone.
In this particular instance, I know I am not the only one to question MM´s alibi - and it is not from the innocent camp. Not going to say who it is, I promised not to.

[nugnug]

the police wouldn't of wanted to believe his albi because it dident fit mugfords claims so im guessing that they were forced to believe by the fact it couldn't be pulled apart no much they tried.

[Patti]

I have always wondered just how iron cast MM´s alibi was. I believe it was a girlfriend who said she had been with him that night.

He was cheating on his wife. He went on to marry his girlfriend who he claimed to have been with on the night of the tragedies. 
I wouldn't call it air tight either, but on saying that it might be that he was there.