Does Jones slip here??????

[Steve_uk]

Has he accommodated himself to prison life? 

Eventually he states he realised he had no choice, that anger wouldn't get him anywhere so he learned acceptance. 

That's a huge lesson Steve and the world would be a happier place if more people could learn that particular discipline imo.

That's good coming from someone who has put five people prematurely six feet underground in oak caskets,where they will never again breath fresh air,feel the sun on their backs or even have a slice of toast for Christmas dinner.

[maggie]

That's good coming from someone who has put five people prematurely six feet underground in oak caskets,where they will never again breath fresh air,feel the sun on their backs or even have a slice of toast for Christmas dinner.

Depends whether you believe in his guilt or not I imagine. As I believe he's innocent that's my opinion.
No doubt you would argue he was a psychopath which is why he copes in prison. He's certainly a very well behaved psychopath with no signs of violence in his life apart from the crimes he's accused of. If he commited those crimes he would be a violent psychopath, narcissistic, manipulating and controlling.
No sign of mental illness or personality disorders or psychopathy in 29 years of testing.
Personally I dont believe JB could have commited that crime and turned up outside the
farmhouse cool as a cucumber unless he was a psychopath. Imo

[Reader]

Right now, unprepared, get your shoes on, grab your keys and get in your car.

That will take two or three minutes or more, and you haven't even turned the engine on yet.

It could easily have taken less than a minute, especially if his car was parked nearby and his shoes were of slip-on type or had been put on before he rang the police (some people prefer to wear shoes indoors).

[Caroline R]

It could easily have taken less than a minute, especially if his car was parked nearby and his shoes were of slip-on type or had been put on before he rang the police (some people prefer to wear shoes indoors).

No one ever asked him when he got dressed - least I don't think so?

[No-Bits]

No one ever asked him when he got dressed - least I don't think so?

To be dressed as he was and able to leave the house immediately,  would be at odds with him being woken by a phone call and then phoning JM and the police (in either order) with the urgency that he has expressed.

The only thing which would make sense, is for him to have gotten dressed after the phone call to the police. The alternative doesn't favour JB at all.

I maintain the 'opinion' that it would be difficult, if not impossible for JB to have readied himself and travelled to WHF in 7-9 minutes counting from the termination of his call to the police.

[Caroline R]

To be dressed as he was and able to leave the house immediately,  would be at odds with him being woken by a phone call and then phoning JM and the police (in either order) with the urgency that he has expressed.

The only thing which would make sense, is for him to have gotten dressed after the phone call to the police. The alternative doesn't favour JB at all.

I maintain the 'opinion' that it would be difficult, if not impossible for JB to have readied himself and travelled to WHF in 7-9 minutes counting from the termination of his call to the police.

It takes seconds to throw on a few clothes. He may have been partially dressed while making the phone calls. Like I said, don't think he was ever asked about getting dressed.

[Reader]

Jeremy probably had about three minutes (between 3:31 am and 3:34 am) to get dressed, if his account is correct, whilst he decided whether to call the police. That left him about a minute and a half to find the police telephone number(s), possibly try to telephone Witham police station, and telephone Chelmsford police station.  Pc West then logs his call at 3:36 am. It's certainly possible to get dressed in three minutes. Some boarding schools would require a pupil to do that (including a brief wash) on occasion as a form of minor punishment.

[Caroline R]

Jeremy probably had about three minutes (between 3:31 am and 3:34 am) to get dressed, if his account is correct, whilst he decided whether to call the police. That left him about a minute and a half to find the police telephone number(s), possibly try to telephone Witham police station, and telephone Chelmsford police station.  Pc West then logs his call at 3:36 am. It's certainly possible to get dressed in three minutes. Some boarding schools would require a pupil to do that (including a brief wash) on occasion as a form of minor punishment.

If it's just a case of throwing on a few clothes, I could get dressed in less than a minute!! If they are to hand (like flung on a chair), it wouldn't be impossible to manage less than 30 seconds.

[No-Bits]

Jeremy probably had about three minutes (between 3:31 am and 3:34 am) to get dressed, if his account is correct, whilst he decided whether to call the police. That left him about a minute and a half to find the police telephone number(s), possibly try to telephone Witham police station, and telephone Chelmsford police station.  Pc West then logs his call at 3:36 am. It's certainly possible to get dressed in three minutes. Some boarding schools would require a pupil to do that (including a brief wash) on occasion as a form of minor punishment.

Or the call was actually at 3:26.

Plus a guilty JB has plenty of time to ready himself, as a call from Ralph doesn't take place.

[Patti]

Jeremy probably had about three minutes (between 3:31 am and 3:34 am) to get dressed, if his account is correct, whilst he decided whether to call the police. That left him about a minute and a half to find the police telephone number(s), possibly try to telephone Witham police station, and telephone Chelmsford police station.  Pc West then logs his call at 3:36 am. It's certainly possible to get dressed in three minutes. Some boarding schools would require a pupil to do that (including a brief wash) on occasion as a form of minor punishment.

Morning Reader

It's impossible that the call was at 3:36 its more likely that the call ended at 3:36 and it was more likely the call was made at 3:26 and this I believe was excepted at the COA. 

PC Cracknell stated in his statement that due to a call to the information room at 3:33 he headed of for WHF.

Plus car7 or was it 5 was called out at 3:35....

Jeremy arrived at WHF at 3:50

The drive to WHF is just under 8 minutes, so he had a possible 8 minutes to get dressed, lock up and get into the car. 

Of course he could not have called Julie at 3:30 because he was still on the phone to police; which makes it more likely that he called Julie first, after the call to Witham.  This is the call that we tend to forget he made, although there is no proof he made that call, but he must have done to know that the station was not manned.   

[Reader]

If police were called by Ralph at 03:26, it's not inconsistent that certain events occurred prior to 03:36, and remains possible that Pc West correctly logged the time when Jeremy called him. Other than by reference to police logs, you cannot know accurately how long the drive took, as that depended on how fast Jeremy drove, but there were 14 minutes from 03:36 (logged time of call) to 03:50 (logged time of arrival). That allows about six minutes for Jeremy's call and about 8 minutes for his drive (including walking out to his car).