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« Reply #45 on: August 08, 2013, 06:42:PM »
as far as i know its the other way around people who admit there crimes get released people who dont stay tend in jail.

i also cant that someone  remorslesly kill someone and lie about it for 12 years would suddenly start feeling guilty now.

Perhaps it's been on his mind for years and the thought of being released with the crime really still hanging over his head (because he hadn't admitted to it) was too much for him.

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« Reply #46 on: August 08, 2013, 06:46:PM »
So many people gave so much to support Simon Hall and this is what they get in return. Some even laid their professional reputations on the line.

Correna Platt, the solicitor who was so unceremoniously sacked (lucky escape) was, I believe, working pro bono.

Dr Michael Naughton and the UoBIP tirelessly and publically worked on Simon’s case and were involved in securing the 2011 appeal. They even agreed to work on it again after the split with Correna, despite Stephanie’s appalling behaviour towards them.

Expert Tiernan Coyle tried his very hardest to differentiate between the fibres found at the crime scene and those found in locations connected with Simon, but was told by the court of appeal that he was looking too hard for differences. I guess they were right. Good luck to him (and the defendant) next time he appears before them.

And then there were those of us who had little to offer in the way of expertise, but did what we could to examine every minute aspect of the case in order to try to find anything at all that may have been missed by the professionals. And those like Steffie Bon who did what she could to publicise Simon’s case and keep it moving forward. The internet is littered by such folk who have received nothing but abuse in return, but who still maintained a belief that at the very least Simon Hall’s conviction was unsafe.

No doubt the professionals will brush themselves off, put it down to experience and do whatever they can in the way of damage limitation, but the real victims of this deceit are of course Mrs Albert’s family, who at least, thank heavens, have closure now, and Simon’s family (and of course Steffie Bon) who are now having to deal with the reality that this confession will bring. They have always had the comfort of belief in Simon’s innocence and have not previously had to face the fact that their son / brother / friend is a murderer. For them a new nightmare is just beginning just at the time when it should have been coming to an end.

Let’s also not forget the huge amount of damage this will have done to those who are actually innocent miscarriages of justice. Apart from the amount of court and CCRC time, money and resources Simon Hall has wasted, public support and perception are an important factor. Simon Hall’s 12 years of lies will without doubt cause the public to be far more sceptical in the cases of others claiming innocence, even if it has little affect on the justice system.

So why did he do it and why now? Good questions. I think Paris was probably the nearest to the answer when she said:

Maybe he felt unable/and under too much pressure to confess previously, due to all the attention and efforts of SH..

However, unlike Paris I am not convinced as to the motives behind Stephanie’s attention and efforts. On the one hand her belief in Simon’s innocence may have been total, in which case she must be devastated and deserving of support. On the other, I see a woman who has worked at least as hard on isolating Simon from his family friends as she has on his case. It seems entirely possible to me that Simon has wanted to confess for some time, but has been prevented from doing so by the only person he has left in the outside world. This would explain both his apparent breakdown and overdose, and also Stephanie’s senseless attacks on anyone who got too close.

Any sympathy I might have for Simon if the latter is true is tempered by the fact of the appalling nature of his crime. Let’s not forget that some of Mrs Albert’s wounds were said to have been inflicted some 30 minutes after her death. As for Stephanie, the jury is out for me. If she was truly unaware of Simon’s guilt until his confession I hope she gets all the help she will surely need.

Rest finally in peace Mrs Albert.





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« Reply #47 on: August 08, 2013, 06:53:PM »
So many people gave so much to support Simon Hall and this is what they get in return. Some even laid their professional reputations on the line.

Correna Platt, the solicitor who was so unceremoniously sacked (lucky escape) was, I believe, working pro bono.

Dr Michael Naughton and the UoBIP tirelessly and publically worked on Simon’s case and were involved in securing the 2011 appeal. They even agreed to work on it again after the split with Correna, despite Stephanie’s appalling behaviour towards them.

Expert Tiernan Coyle tried his very hardest to differentiate between the fibres found at the crime scene and those found in locations connected with Simon, but was told by the court of appeal that he was looking too hard for differences. I guess they were right. Good luck to him (and the defendant) next time he appears before them.

And then there were those of us who had little to offer in the way of expertise, but did what we could to examine every minute aspect of the case in order to try to find anything at all that may have been missed by the professionals. And those like Steffie Bon who did what she could to publicise Simon’s case and keep it moving forward. The internet is littered by such folk who have received nothing but abuse in return, but who still maintained a belief that at the very least Simon Hall’s conviction was unsafe.

No doubt the professionals will brush themselves off, put it down to experience and do whatever they can in the way of damage limitation, but the real victims of this deceit are of course Mrs Albert’s family, who at least, thank heavens, have closure now, and Simon’s family (and of course Steffie Bon) who are now having to deal with the reality that this confession will bring. They have always had the comfort of belief in Simon’s innocence and have not previously had to face the fact that their son / brother / friend is a murderer. For them a new nightmare is just beginning just at the time when it should have been coming to an end.

Let’s also not forget the huge amount of damage this will have done to those who are actually innocent miscarriages of justice. Apart from the amount of court and CCRC time, money and resources Simon Hall has wasted, public support and perception are an important factor. Simon Hall’s 12 years of lies will without doubt cause the public to be far more sceptical in the cases of others claiming innocence, even if it has little affect on the justice system.

So why did he do it and why now? Good questions. I think Paris was probably the nearest to the answer when she said:

Maybe he felt unable/and under too much pressure to confess previously, due to all the attention and efforts of SH..

However, unlike Paris I am not convinced as to the motives behind Stephanie’s attention and efforts. On the one hand her belief in Simon’s innocence may have been total, in which case she must be devastated and deserving of support. On the other, I see a woman who has worked at least as hard on isolating Simon from his family friends as she has on his case. It seems entirely possible to me that Simon has wanted to confess for some time, but has been prevented from doing so by the only person he has left in the outside world. This would explain both his apparent breakdown and overdose, and also Stephanie’s senseless attacks on anyone who got too close.

Any sympathy I might have for Simon if the latter is true is tempered by the fact of the appalling nature of his crime. Let’s not forget that some of Mrs Albert’s wounds were said to have been inflicted some 30 minutes after her death. As for Stephanie, the jury is out for me. If she was truly unaware of Simon’s guilt until his confession I hope she gets all the help she will surely need.

Rest finally in peace Mrs Albert.



Very well put and good to see you back Bridget :)

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« Reply #48 on: August 08, 2013, 06:58:PM »
So many people gave so much to support Simon Hall and this is what they get in return. Some even laid their professional reputations on the line.

Correna Platt, the solicitor who was so unceremoniously sacked (lucky escape) was, I believe, working pro bono.

Dr Michael Naughton and the UoBIP tirelessly and publically worked on Simon’s case and were involved in securing the 2011 appeal. They even agreed to work on it again after the split with Correna, despite Stephanie’s appalling behaviour towards them.

Expert Tiernan Coyle tried his very hardest to differentiate between the fibres found at the crime scene and those found in locations connected with Simon, but was told by the court of appeal that he was looking too hard for differences. I guess they were right. Good luck to him (and the defendant) next time he appears before them.

And then there were those of us who had little to offer in the way of expertise, but did what we could to examine every minute aspect of the case in order to try to find anything at all that may have been missed by the professionals. And those like Steffie Bon who did what she could to publicise Simon’s case and keep it moving forward. The internet is littered by such folk who have received nothing but abuse in return, but who still maintained a belief that at the very least Simon Hall’s conviction was unsafe.

No doubt the professionals will brush themselves off, put it down to experience and do whatever they can in the way of damage limitation, but the real victims of this deceit are of course Mrs Albert’s family, who at least, thank heavens, have closure now, and Simon’s family (and of course Steffie Bon) who are now having to deal with the reality that this confession will bring. They have always had the comfort of belief in Simon’s innocence and have not previously had to face the fact that their son / brother / friend is a murderer. For them a new nightmare is just beginning just at the time when it should have been coming to an end.

Let’s also not forget the huge amount of damage this will have done to those who are actually innocent miscarriages of justice. Apart from the amount of court and CCRC time, money and resources Simon Hall has wasted, public support and perception are an important factor. Simon Hall’s 12 years of lies will without doubt cause the public to be far more sceptical in the cases of others claiming innocence, even if it has little affect on the justice system.

So why did he do it and why now? Good questions. I think Paris was probably the nearest to the answer when she said:

Maybe he felt unable/and under too much pressure to confess previously, due to all the attention and efforts of SH..

However, unlike Paris I am not convinced as to the motives behind Stephanie’s attention and efforts. On the one hand her belief in Simon’s innocence may have been total, in which case she must be devastated and deserving of support. On the other, I see a woman who has worked at least as hard on isolating Simon from his family friends as she has on his case. It seems entirely possible to me that Simon has wanted to confess for some time, but has been prevented from doing so by the only person he has left in the outside world. This would explain both his apparent breakdown and overdose, and also Stephanie’s senseless attacks on anyone who got too close.

Any sympathy I might have for Simon if the latter is true is tempered by the fact of the appalling nature of his crime. Let’s not forget that some of Mrs Albert’s wounds were said to have been inflicted some 30 minutes after her death. As for Stephanie, the jury is out for me. If she was truly unaware of Simon’s guilt until his confession I hope she gets all the help she will surely need.

Rest finally in peace Mrs Albert.

I don't believe for one moment that Steph knew he was guilty or planned to make a confession. I just hope that now it's out in the open, that all concerned can move on but I echo your thoughts in respect to Mrs Albert.

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« Reply #49 on: August 08, 2013, 06:59:PM »
So many people gave so much to support Simon Hall and this is what they get in return. Some even laid their professional reputations on the line.

Correna Platt, the solicitor who was so unceremoniously sacked (lucky escape) was, I believe, working pro bono.

Dr Michael Naughton and the UoBIP tirelessly and publically worked on Simon’s case and were involved in securing the 2011 appeal. They even agreed to work on it again after the split with Correna, despite Stephanie’s appalling behaviour towards them.

Expert Tiernan Coyle tried his very hardest to differentiate between the fibres found at the crime scene and those found in locations connected with Simon, but was told by the court of appeal that he was looking too hard for differences. I guess they were right. Good luck to him (and the defendant) next time he appears before them.

And then there were those of us who had little to offer in the way of expertise, but did what we could to examine every minute aspect of the case in order to try to find anything at all that may have been missed by the professionals. And those like Steffie Bon who did what she could to publicise Simon’s case and keep it moving forward. The internet is littered by such folk who have received nothing but abuse in return, but who still maintained a belief that at the very least Simon Hall’s conviction was unsafe.

No doubt the professionals will brush themselves off, put it down to experience and do whatever they can in the way of damage limitation, but the real victims of this deceit are of course Mrs Albert’s family, who at least, thank heavens, have closure now, and Simon’s family (and of course Steffie Bon) who are now having to deal with the reality that this confession will bring. They have always had the comfort of belief in Simon’s innocence and have not previously had to face the fact that their son / brother / friend is a murderer. For them a new nightmare is just beginning just at the time when it should have been coming to an end.

Let’s also not forget the huge amount of damage this will have done to those who are actually innocent miscarriages of justice. Apart from the amount of court and CCRC time, money and resources Simon Hall has wasted, public support and perception are an important factor. Simon Hall’s 12 years of lies will without doubt cause the public to be far more sceptical in the cases of others claiming innocence, even if it has little affect on the justice system.

So why did he do it and why now? Good questions. I think Paris was probably the nearest to the answer when she said:

Maybe he felt unable/and under too much pressure to confess previously, due to all the attention and efforts of SH..

However, unlike Paris I am not convinced as to the motives behind Stephanie’s attention and efforts. On the one hand her belief in Simon’s innocence may have been total, in which case she must be devastated and deserving of support. On the other, I see a woman who has worked at least as hard on isolating Simon from his family friends as she has on his case. It seems entirely possible to me that Simon has wanted to confess for some time, but has been prevented from doing so by the only person he has left in the outside world. This would explain both his apparent breakdown and overdose, and also Stephanie’s senseless attacks on anyone who got too close.

Any sympathy I might have for Simon if the latter is true is tempered by the fact of the appalling nature of his crime. Let’s not forget that some of Mrs Albert’s wounds were said to have been inflicted some 30 minutes after her death. As for Stephanie, the jury is out for me. If she was truly unaware of Simon’s guilt until his confession I hope she gets all the help she will surely need.

Rest finally in peace Mrs Albert.

A very powerful post.

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« Reply #50 on: August 08, 2013, 07:06:PM »
So after twelve long years of leading professionals,do-gooders and onlookers up the garden path Simon Hall has finally had the decency to do the right thing and confess to his heinous crime. Whether he stabbed 79 year-old Joan Albert five or fifteen times as has been disputed in a frenzied attack as this proud widow who had endured the hardships of the war years refused to cave in to that all-too-common modern phenomenon-the cocky, conceited lager lout unsatisfied with his lot and who has to have more and yet more as he eyes up not only his Citroen but his Audi running costs and espies a wealthy neighbour as milch cow,yet a lager lout with a propensity to violence,a deadly combination as the determined old lady struggled with her attacker in the hallway, leaving black nylon flock and green woollen fibres at the scene which matched with fibres in the cars and clothing in his wardrobe and which he refused to admit he had worn on that fateful night.

Hall is not the first to brazen out this most serious of crimes. Others have played the long haul game with its attempt to unsettle:Jonathan Jones,Sheila Bowler,Eddie Gilfoyle and Michelle and Lisa Taylor all spring to mind,sometimes breaking the will of the legal fraternity at Temple Inn on The Strand just as David Bain succeeded 11,000 miles away with a British input involved in that case. Simon Hall has possibly looked at the Jeremy Bamber case from his open prison near Ipswich and meditated on the likelihood of finishing up like Jeremy,stuck behind bars at Full Sutton for the rest of his natural life,and decided on the 28th anniversary of the crime:"I'm not going to end up like that.."
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« Reply #51 on: August 08, 2013, 07:20:PM »
Bridget,
I totally agree.

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« Reply #52 on: August 08, 2013, 07:21:PM »
not forgeting the current head of the cps had previously expressed an opinion that he was innocent.

chris mole and bob russel must be a bit pissed of as well not that i really feel sorry for them.

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« Reply #53 on: August 08, 2013, 07:22:PM »
He is entitled to an opinion but it doesn't mean he is correct.

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« Reply #54 on: August 08, 2013, 07:32:PM »
makes me rather angry when i think of the other cases the innocence project could of been working on.

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« Reply #55 on: August 08, 2013, 07:40:PM »
makes me rather angry when i think of the other cases the innocence project could of been working on.
I think that is very relevant.  Other appeals have been delayed and people will be a lot more cynical about them as a result of this.

Other prisoners may well take revenge for what they see as a betrayal of the support and sympathy they have provided.

As for "Closure" for Mrs Albert's family.  I view that as the sort of rubbish that Oprah comes out with it.  If you have ever lost anyone under harrowing circumstances you never ever get "closure."  It is with you every day of your life.

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« Reply #56 on: August 08, 2013, 07:46:PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-23611821

Bloody hell. I don't know what to say really. I can imagine that Steph and Simon's family are in bits.  I'm not sure what prompted this confession, but I will say this its for the best that he has done this, at least now he can face up to what he has done.

I must admit, to thinking that it was a possible MOJ but there was always something at the back of my mind...the case its self was not as inconsistent as Jeremy's and I recall having read many times that those that profess they are not guilty but are guilty confess in time...

Will he still be released or will he now be charged with some perversion of justice?   

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« Reply #57 on: August 08, 2013, 07:47:PM »
Hi All
Hope we can remember Joan Albert's family today, at least, at last they know the truth and hopefully this will help them to move forward.  May she now RIP.
With respect

Thanks Maggie

Maggie that is a lovely thought and I totally agree with what you have said here....

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« Reply #58 on: August 08, 2013, 07:52:PM »
Interesting. I am angry that he has fooled a lot of well meaning people for so long. This in no way reflects upon their honesty or intelligence. But it is a case where the goodness of human nature has been well and truly exploited by a wicked man with a seared conscience. It is also a smack in the face for the innocent family of Joan Albert.
Not to mention the impact it will have upon those who believe Jeremy Bamber to be innocent, in that some of us may review our beliefs in his innocence as well? I for one, although never a strong advocate of his innocence feel fooled and ashamed and feel also for Stephanie who has supported him all these years and fought tooth and claw to vindicate him. I can't begin to imagine just how she must be feeling right at this moment? No blame should be attached to her in any way whatsoever, as she too is a victim in this sorry tail.

Hi Lugg....I would think that Steph will be gutted.  She loves this man so much and has fought every obstacle in her way to try her best to free the man she loves.  I hope she is well and I hope she recovers from this.  I now think this is personal for her and I hope everyone leaves her alone.  Those who don't will show their true colours and show just what type of person they are in real life...Its a sad read but the truth is far better than anything else in my opinion.