Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?

[maggie]

It would be out of character for someone who talked to Sheila for hours on the telephone in an attempt to reassure her suddenly on Tuesday night became high-handed about his daughter's parenting skills,when a few hours later all were dead meaning we only have Jeremy's word for what pertained on that fateful evening.

No it wouldn't, I would guess that Neville was tired out from harvesting, and irritated beyond belief by his daughters withdrawal and lack of connection while they tried to sort out the dreadful mess her life had become. 

He wouldn't realise any more than you do that her apathy and withdrawal was signalling she was in a psychotic state and could have a full blown aggressive psychotic episode at any moment. 

I would think he just wanted some sort of agreement before he could take the dogs out and then climb into bed ready for the next long day in the fields.
It was possibly this irritation which BW sensed when she telephoned him.

[Jane]

Jeremy could have led her by the hand from her bedroom with a story that there were intruders in the house and then shot her as she lay down in the master bedroom. I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Steve, I'm truly not surprised that you're "not sure what" I'm "getting at." It's part of what I see as your inability to "feel" a situation. THINK, STEVE, PLEASE. There is this mentally fragile girl whose world is falling apart and she finds herself confronted by an intruder wearing a wetsuit, Marigold gloves, and a fake tan, and she takes his hand, follows him to another bedroom, lays down and allows him to shoot her. I DON'T THINK SO.........................however, please humour me. YOU take the gun. YOU direct this girl you've grown up with to lay down on the floor. YOU place it so close to her skin it's all but touching. She looks at you, her eyes are pleading, she's terrified. She is your SISTER, she has always been a part of your life even before YOU were a part of hers. You played/argued together as children. You enjoyed the company of her and her London friends when you were older. She may have irritated the life out of you from time to time but you shared such WONDERFUL Christmas's together. What has she EVER done to you that she deserves to die for. Can YOU pull that trigger? All those memories with ALL those people, not just once, Steve, 5 TIMES!!!!!!!!!!! If ANY part of this makes sense I can recommend the therapist I used. I don't consider MY mental health to be in question because I needed their services.

[Steve_uk]

Steve, I'm truly not surprised that you're "not sure what" I'm "getting at." It's part of what I see as your inability to "feel" a situation. THINK, STEVE, PLEASE. There is this mentally fragile girl whose world is falling apart and she finds herself confronted by an intruder wearing a wetsuit, Marigold gloves, and a fake tan, and she takes his hand, follows him to another bedroom, lays down and allows him to shoot her. I DON'T THINK SO.........................however, please humour me. YOU take the gun. YOU direct this girl you've grown up with to lay down on the floor. YOU place it so close to her skin it's all but touching. She looks at you, her eyes are pleading, she's terrified. She is your SISTER, she has always been a part of your life even before YOU were a part of hers. You played/argued together as children. You enjoyed the company of her and her London friends when you were older. She may have irritated the life out of you from time to time but you shared such WONDERFUL Christmas's together. What has she EVER done to you that she deserves to die for. Can YOU pull that trigger? All those memories with ALL those people, not just once, Steve, 5 TIMES!!!!!!!!!!! If ANY part of this makes sense I can recommend the therapist I used. I don't consider MY mental health to be in question because I needed their services.

Well Jeremy had doubts as to his ability to commit the crimes but he did practise on rats first. It didn't help that his sexuality was questioned in certain quarters and in this sense he was overcompensating for the perceived loss of his manhood by the slayings.

[susan]

steve why would Sheila lie down in the bedroom on Jeremy's command more nonsense me thinks

[Jane]

Well Jeremy had doubts as to his ability to commit the crimes but he did practise on rats first. It didn't help that his sexuality was questioned in certain quarters and in this sense he was overcompensating for the perceived loss of his manlihood by the slayings.

The WORD according to Julie again. As for the rest you're following your usual pattern. When unable to respond with sense, you resort to BOLLOX.

[Caroline R]

Well Jeremy had doubts as to his ability to commit the crimes but he did practise on rats first. It didn't help that his sexuality was questioned in certain quarters and in this sense he was overcompensating for the perceived loss of his manlihood by the slayings.

Sorry but this is complete and utter rubbish

[Patti]

Sorry but this is complete and utter rubbish

Bash head against a wall, do a twirl and pass out....Strewth! 

[Jane]

Sorry but this is complete and utter rubbish

And I think that one of Steve's favoured putdowns can be used to describe it. PSYCHOBABBLE

[maggie]

Sorry but this is complete and utter rubbish

What is Steve ON?!!!!!

[Jane]

What is Steve ON?!!!!!

Something pretty thought distorting, Maggie. Perhaps it's a picture of Julie

[Steve_uk]

It was all a bit of a joke to Jeremy,which is why such a nonentity had the temerity to carry it out in the first place. He was a relentless tease at Gresham's,he rode a bicycle round in circles at Ann Eaton,he played practical jokes on friends for a giggle,anything to relieve the monotony of working life on the Farm. Nobody read the signals,the parents did care but they didn't act as if they did care,they were not tactile and as Jeremy moved from one closed institution to another and witnessed the failing health of those around him he must have sought a way out of it,though even he himself baulked at the ultimate solution,one of actively killing them all by gunfire and not passively standing by as the Farm burned down with his parents inside.

[Jane]

It was all a bit of a joke to Jeremy,which is why such a nonentity had the temerity to carry it out in the first place. He was a relentless tease at Gresham's,he rode a bicycle round in circles at Ann Eaton,he played practical jokes on friends for a giggle,anything to relieve the monotony of working life on the Farm. Nobody read the signals,the parents did care but they didn't act as if they did care,they were not tactile and as Jeremy moved from one closed institution to another and witnessed the failing health of those around him he must have sought a way out of it,though even he himself baulked at the ultimate solution,one of actively killing them all by gunfire and not passively standing by as the Farm burned down with his parents inside.

I'm wondering why you refer constantly to Jeremy as a "Nonentity" and if it's a feeling you've experienced. Since when did a boy being a tease become a hanging offence. A little levity hurts no one, Steve. I wonder also, to which "signals" you refer. Had it been a question of Jeremy being the "good" child to Sheila's "naughty" child, there wouldn't have been any signals from Jeremy. That's the way it is in the "good/"naughty" child scenario. I believe that Jeremy's prep school was a day school. To my knowledge he only ever attended ONE boarding school. You resort to "Juliespeak" which could be entered in the NED as a new word for LIAR, IMO.

[lookout]

Has anyone listened to the 4 audio extracts of Jeremy that were recorded courtesy of the Daily Mirror Jan. 2011.? If not,,they're worth listening to. They're only short extracts,but he gives more of an insight into the " non-use " of a silencer,,and also the difference between a silencer and a moderator.

[tyler]

April,you have forgotten the mask that Jeremy told Julie he would wear! So according to Steve,JB led Sheila from her bed telling her there were intruders at the farm,whilst wearing wetsuit,marigolds and a MASK and she obediently went with him with no reaction whilst stepping over June's bloodied deceased body and sat/laid down whilst he shot her? I would have thought someone entering Sheila's bedroom in the middle of the night wearing a mask would be enough to give the poor girl a heart attack!

[susan]

april we forgot the mask the old grandma at the window would never have been able to identify this strange man in wetsuit marigold glove and a mask on a ladies bike steve was right to say it would have been a waste of time bringing her forward as a witness for the prosecution but then again maybe not it would be in keeping with the other evidence