Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?

[lookout]

Poor June was really slaughtered.There's a thread from 13th of October 2011 which is headed " Crime scene around June Bamber ",,and as Roch had pointed out,it was strange,,given the amount of blood around,,that no mans' footprint was to be seen on the carpet anywhere. Also,,another strange thing that both June and Sheila were pretty close together in the same room.

[Patti]

Maggie/Patti, but it seems she was ill enough to be taken back to St Andrews again.

According to Jeremy his mother was admitted to St Andrews following the death of his grandmother...She died in December 1981, so this would be in 1982...

Not sure what you mean April about she was ill enough to be taken back to St Andrew's....Jeremy goes on to say that his mother was still having medical treatment (meds we think) up to the day she died....

Are you saying that if she had not died there would be a chance that she could have been admitted again?  Its been a long and I am about done in....so I apologise if I am not grasping it.....sowwy! 

[Patti]

So this would be the paternal grandmother?

What was June feeling guilty about?  Being depressed or the death of the grandmother?!

Does that mean she wasn't heavily religious before that?!

June was on medication too perhaps?!!

Interesting.

Yes Nevill's mother.  Reading between the lines I think Jeremy was trying to say that his mother felt guilty that she was placed in a nursing home and that she was unable to look after her herself...

I'm unsure of when June took an interest in religion, but Jeremy says that after this June turned to religion....

[HMEssex]

Poor June was really slaughtered.There's a thread from 13th of October 2011 which is headed " Crime scene around June Bamber ",,and as Roch had pointed out,it was strange,,given the amount of blood around,,that no mans' footprint was to be seen on the carpet anywhere. Also,,another strange thing that both June and Sheila were pretty close together in the same room.

Don't forget the blue socks.

She (Sheila) could have been wearing them - hence no footprints.

The whole photographed scene was tampered with and set by EP.

So, they could quite easily have removed the socks from her and placed them 'just so', just how they did with the rifle and everything else.

[tyler]

Thanks for that Patti. x

[lookout]

Don't forget the blue socks.

She (Sheila) could have been wearing them - hence no footprints.

The whole photographed scene was tampered with and set by EP.

So, they could quite easily have removed the socks from her and placed them 'just so', just how they did with the rifle and everything else.

Yes,HME,,I thought of that with the socks,as they're in the room. Of course everything was tampered with. I even read that one or two officers didn't even see any rifle around.!

[tyler]

That doesn't make sense does it? Why would EP "stage" the socks when in the beginning they believed Sheila was the murderer? They wasn't trying to frame JB at that stage.

[HMEssex]

That doesn't make sense does it? Why would EP "stage" the socks when in the beginning they believed Sheila was the murderer? They wasn't trying to frame JB at that stage.

Nothing makes sense it you think about it.

It wasn't just the socks, but the bible, rifle and Sheila's hands too.

They weren't trying to frame JB at that stage, it was four murders and suicide.  So what were they doing?

[tyler]

Imo they were covering up something that went badly wrong during the raid.

[maggie]

Imo they were covering up something that went badly wrong during the raid.

Which is what Mike claims, When you look at the complete picture it does seem to make sense that there could have been some sort of cover up.

[tyler]

This is old news,from 2011,but it quotes Professor Macdonell saying that he could have been wrong when he concluded in his report that Sheila was murdered. An interesting piece and well worth a read.

http://www.channel4.com/news/jeremy-bamber-new-evidence-will-set-me-free

[lookout]

Tyler,,nearly everyone but Stan Jones and the relatives realised that there was something wrong. It's no wonder that none of the cowards will come forward after all these years.
Lord knows, there's been enough publicity over the years about police corruption
How can anyone charge a man for such a massacre within 19 days.? There was no background taken on each individual in which to build any sort of a case,,they had Jeremy pinned right from the start,,24hrs after the murders,in fact. It's something that had to be studied closely,and that was NEVER done.

[tyler]

I think Macdonell's report is actually more damning toward EP than it is Jeremy!

[Patti]

This is old news,from 2011,but it quotes Professor Macdonell saying that he could have been wrong when he concluded in his report that Sheila was murdered. An interesting piece and well worth a read.

http://www.channel4.com/news/jeremy-bamber-new-evidence-will-set-me-free

Thank for that Tyler....I think Wilkes might have to re-write his book.   

[tyler]

Haha Patti. I think that someone is doing/done that for him!