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« Reply #375 on: May 21, 2013, 03:21:PM »
If you look closely at the cornering of the pages above the Y, they seem rounded as in a well worn book.  The open page on the bloodstained bible for the corresponding corner appears pointed, as if the bible was less well worn?

Not to me, the cover and the first few pages look worn but the weight of the outer pages on the inner would keep the pages inside more uniform. Most books that are read often begin to deteriorate at the outer pages. However, 'generally in a book with so many pages (such as a bible) tend to be less damaged. Besides all that, Tyler posted the following pictures of her bible which is the same version as the blue bible found next to Sheila. I find it incredible that a different bible would have the same passage and wording as another version? Also, I can't think of one single reason why they would be switched?

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« Reply #376 on: May 21, 2013, 03:22:PM »
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« Reply #377 on: May 21, 2013, 03:23:PM »
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« Reply #378 on: May 21, 2013, 03:41:PM »
Hi Caroline, I totally agree with you, the cover of the bible and the first few pages are worn at the corners but most of the inner pages are and would be pretty much pristine.  That is as you say what happens with a well used soft backed book. 
The two bibles are the same edition and would therefore have the same psalms etc on the same pages.  A different edition would not have the same psalms on the corresponding page numbers or a King James's bible and a New English Translation woud be totally different in style and language imo.
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« Reply #379 on: May 21, 2013, 04:30:PM »
Not to me, the cover and the first few pages look worn but the weight of the outer pages on the inner would keep the pages inside more uniform. Most books that are read often begin to deteriorate at the outer pages. However, 'generally in a book with so many pages (such as a bible) tend to be less damaged. Besides all that, Tyler posted the following pictures of her bible which is the same version as the blue bible found next to Sheila. I find it incredible that a different bible would have the same passage and wording as another version? Also, I can't think of one single reason why they would be switched?

I have to agree with that. You can even see the worn cover-corners on this photo. Bottom left corner (in picture) is worn, and notice how the Bible´s upper right corner (in the picture) is elevated, indicating that it is not resting flat on the surface.


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« Reply #380 on: May 21, 2013, 05:29:PM »
So collectively what you are saying is that there is no difference in apparent wearing between the two bibles (or same bible)... because the bible laid out flat on its' back as an open book is bearing more weight down upon the worn cover and outer pages?

To me, the blue crime scene bible just looks far more worn than the 'palm' stained bible flat on its' back.  Even given the weight bearing theory, it doesn't look right to me. 

What's the chance that it was possible to obtain the same bible in a different coloured cover?  For example... black?

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« Reply #381 on: May 21, 2013, 06:15:PM »
I am getting confused. Why do people want there to be two blood-stained bibles?  :o

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« Reply #382 on: May 21, 2013, 06:34:PM »
I am getting confused. Why do people want there to be two blood-stained bibles?  :o

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« Reply #383 on: May 21, 2013, 06:35:PM »
So collectively what you are saying is that there is no difference in apparent wearing between the two bibles (or same bible)... because the bible laid out flat on its' back as an open book is bearing more weight down upon the worn cover and outer pages?

To me, the blue crime scene bible just looks far more worn than the 'palm' stained bible flat on its' back.  Even given the weight bearing theory, it doesn't look right to me. 

What's the chance that it was possible to obtain the same bible in a different coloured cover?  For example... black?

What would be the point of such a deception?

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« Reply #384 on: May 21, 2013, 06:41:PM »
What would be the point of such a deception?

I really don't know.  I just cant reconcile the battered blue crime scene bible with the bloodstained bible which looks less battered.  You're probably right, it's the same bible.  But the difference in condition (as I see it) is niggling at me.

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« Reply #385 on: May 21, 2013, 06:47:PM »
I really don't know.  I just cant reconcile the battered blue crime scene bible with the bloodstained bible which looks less battered.  You're probably right, it's the same bible.  But the difference in condition (as I see it) is niggling at me.
Hi Roch but it's the outside of the bible which shows wear and tear, while the inside pages would surely be more as they were when the bible was new.....don't you think??? ;D

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« Reply #386 on: May 21, 2013, 06:48:PM »
I really don't know.  I just cant reconcile the battered blue crime scene bible with the bloodstained bible which looks less battered.  You're probably right, it's the same bible.  But the difference in condition (as I see it) is niggling at me.

Not at me, it looks worn to me. Funny how people see the same things very differently!

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« Reply #387 on: May 21, 2013, 06:53:PM »
Hi Roch but it's the outside of the bible which shows wear and tear, while the inside pages would surely be more as they were when the bible was new.....don't you think??? ;D





Honestly, I understand what you're saying but there's something not right with the comparison for me.  I could very well be wrong.  But I cant reconcile them.

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« Reply #388 on: May 21, 2013, 07:03:PM »
Have just checked my husband´s bible - he reads it, not me!  ;D It is SUPER worn on the outside, more than the blue bible. The pages inside are not that worn - not at all.

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« Reply #389 on: May 21, 2013, 07:11:PM »
Have just checked my husband´s bible - he reads it, not me!  ;D It is SUPER worn on the outside, more than the blue bible. The pages inside are not that worn - not at all.

What I'm saying is that I cant reconcile the way that the stained bible sits straight looking, with the condition of the blue bible.  It's as if it has been pressed back in to shape by weights.  I cant see the weight of the book itself as doing that.