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Offline tyler

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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #360 on: May 20, 2013, 11:21:PM »
Bloodstains can definately be attributed to the blue bible. I have always been led to believe that what Hammersley "didn't discover" was a suicide note. Perhaps this was "discovered" in the black bible that was in Sheila's room?

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« Reply #361 on: May 20, 2013, 11:26:PM »
Bloodstains can definately be attributed to the blue bible. I have always been led to believe that what Hammersley "didn't discover" was a suicide note. Perhaps this was "discovered" in the black bible that was in Sheila's room?

Well, they are certainly on the same pages as your bible - think we have that pretty much sewn up!! I agree and am in no doubt that the stains are on the blue bible.

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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #362 on: May 21, 2013, 05:24:AM »
Bloodstains can definately be attributed to the blue bible. I have always been led to believe that what Hammersley "didn't discover" was a suicide note. Perhaps this was "discovered" in the black bible that was in Sheila's room?

Where can I find an image of your bible page on the forum please...
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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #363 on: May 21, 2013, 05:38:AM »
I'm not talking about the reflection of me holding the camera, look again very carefully...
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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #364 on: May 21, 2013, 05:42:AM »
Bloodstains can definately be attributed to the blue bible. I have always been led to believe that what Hammersley "didn't discover" was a suicide note. Perhaps this was "discovered" in the black bible that was in Sheila's room?

Hammersley claims to have found the blue covered bible (DRH/33) with a hand written note visible inside its pages, including words, "Love one another" - the full contents of this hand written note have thus far never yet been disclosed:-
« Last Edit: May 21, 2013, 05:45:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #365 on: May 21, 2013, 05:53:AM »
Now, the other hand written note found in Sheila's room, (DRH/42) was found on her bedside table, I think, so that note, and the one shown in the pages of the bible resting partially against Sheila's arm in the main bedroom, cannot be the same hand written note, unless the police recovered the hand written note (DRH/42) from her bedside cabinet in her bedroom, and brought it into the master bedroom, and plonked it inside the blue covered bible during the restaging of her body after Sheila was shot for the second time - the fatal shot under the chin...

Perhaps this is why a copy of the hand written note, (DRH/42) found on the bedside cabinet inside Sheila's bedroom has never been disclosed - because it has been photographed inside the pages of the blue bible, (DRH/33) next to Sheila's body, on the floor of the main bedroom...
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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #366 on: May 21, 2013, 05:58:AM »
Well, they are certainly on the same pages as your bible - think we have that pretty much sewn up!! I agree and am in no doubt that the stains are on the blue bible.

I pose the following questions - (1) look at the corners of the up turned blue bible in this crime scene photograph, and note the worn turned up corners of the cover. (2) - then look at the bible containing the partial bloodied palm print of Sheila, I don't think its the same bible...
« Last Edit: May 21, 2013, 05:59:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #367 on: May 21, 2013, 06:03:AM »
I do not see any one of the four corners of the cover of the bible containing the bloodied palm print, turned up and worn, like is visible on the corners on the cover of the blue bible, so it is reasonable to assume, both bibles cannot possibly be one, and the same bible...
« Last Edit: May 21, 2013, 06:04:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #368 on: May 21, 2013, 06:10:AM »
Now, what is also important, is the presence of the croheted praying mantilla in the pages of the upturned blue bible, which would be resting against and upon the bloodied palm print on the page of the bible - so what happened to that crocheted item which would almost certainly have got blood transference from the bloodied palm print, upon it...

That crocheted praying mantilla was not even made an exhibit, yet there it is, in the pages of the bible next to the body, resting against the very page where the bloodied palm print is situated (if it is the same bible)...

Why not make the page containing the bloodied palm print, and the corresponding crocheted praying mantilla, available to the defence, and why not have both examined to establish whose bloodied palm made this / these marks?

I do not see any sign of the handwritten note, or the crocheted cloth praying mantilla in the bible containing the bloodied palm print - so, why are these missing?
« Last Edit: May 21, 2013, 06:14:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #369 on: May 21, 2013, 06:30:AM »
Paranormal image of Sheila "Bambi" Caffell, produced on page of bible found at the scene, manifested in a bloodied part palm print on page of bible:-
« Last Edit: May 21, 2013, 06:31:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #370 on: May 21, 2013, 11:19:AM »
I don“t see a paranormal picture of anything. That you see it, Mike, is another thing, but how does that help prove anything?

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« Reply #371 on: May 21, 2013, 11:51:AM »
It's only the cover that is bent at the corners and you wouldn't see that when it was turned over with the weight of the pages. We'll just have to agree to disagree on whether it's the same bible but another version would not have the same text on the same number page and I don't see what benefit there would be in switching bibles. It's the same one as far as I'm concerned but I will post pics of Tyler's bible for you when I can get on my lap top.

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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #372 on: May 21, 2013, 12:33:PM »
That " pattern " in the bloodstain is where that crocheted cloth was,so wherever the cloth went,,there'd have been blood on it,as the bible had been closed on the cloth. Much as we'd like to have thought it was a palm print,,I'm thinking it wasn't.

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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #373 on: May 21, 2013, 01:25:PM »
I do not see any one of the four corners of the cover of the bible containing the bloodied palm print, turned up and worn, like is visible on the corners on the cover of the blue bible, so it is reasonable to assume, both bibles cannot possibly be one, and the same bible...

Wow, how come nobody has noticed that before?  :o

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Re: Whose Bloodied right hand palm print was left on pages of bible?
« Reply #374 on: May 21, 2013, 01:48:PM »
It's only the cover that is bent at the corners and you wouldn't see that when it was turned over with the weight of the pages. We'll just have to agree to disagree on whether it's the same bible but another version would not have the same text on the same number page and I don't see what benefit there would be in switching bibles. It's the same one as far as I'm concerned but I will post pics of Tyler's bible for you when I can get on my lap top.

If you look closely at the cornering of the pages above the Y, they seem rounded as in a well worn book.  The open page on the bloodstained bible for the corresponding corner appears pointed, as if the bible was less well worn?