'So and so, said so...' - thread

[SIMONJONES]

You did a lot of work on the Simon Hall case, appearing on television to present the latest material.  You then seemed to take a back seat on the case.  Are you still actively involved ?  Are you able to say how strong is the evidence relating to the other suspects?

Sorry NGB,

Was posting when you replied.

It may appear that I have taken a back seat on Simon's case but that is not so.

As for the evidence re. 'other suspects' - well, there seems to be some very interesting leads on that.

I think we scared the CCRC with our findings.

The CCRC would appear to want to pursue the fibre issue on the case.

They move very, very slowly, perhaps for a reason.

Simon Hall is one individual.

His case implicates several hunded people who look to have made terrible mistakes.

We blitzed a lot of people with our findings, it would be a global story if what we uncovered is the real truth in this case, it certainly looks that way.

As I understand it there is renewed interest and support from across the Atlantic.






 

[susan]

Hi Lugg

I have a friend living in the area and I have been told many locals that knew Jeremy Bamber feel he was not capable of carrying out the horrendous murders.

[ngb1066]

Thank you for the update Ray.  Do you think the CCRC will refer Simon Hall's case again on the basis of the new material submitted last year, or do you think their focus will be once again on the fibre evidence alone, using the US experts proposed?

   

[susan]

Hi SimonJones wondering if you have uncovered further evidence other than the silencer and Julie's statement.  With regard the phone call from Ralph to Jeremy all would depend on the circumstances at the minute and none of us are aware just what was happening.  Do you think it is normal behaviour for a woman to identify two small boys in the morgue knowing her sleeping partner was responsible for that and to say nothing to anyone and carry on sharing his bed.  Had she known in advance that Jeremy was going to carry out the murders she should have been charged as an accessory not get a £25.000 payout for selling her story. I would have thought her story more credible if she had come clean sooner other than after he dumped her.  A woman scorned.  Just my humble opinion of course.

[SIMONJONES]

Welcome back Sparkfilms/Ray.  I realised who you were when you re-registered and therfore did not ask you to introduce yourself in the Foyer.  When you last posted before leaving the forum you were planning an article on the case for the Times.  Are you still working on that?  You also seemed to believe the MM hit man theory.  Do you still support that scenario?

Why do you say Simon McKay will not make any impact with the CCRC?

Sorry, missed the McKay bit.

That's not just me implying it, everyone seems to think he is floundering on this and is headed up a Cul de Sac.

Apologies if I haven't responded to some posts to others - I'm posting on here bewteen painting the ceiling and answering the phone. If I've missed anyone I don't mind the PM route later.

[SIMONJONES]

Thank you for the update Ray.  Do you think the CCRC will refer Simon Hall's case again on the basis of the new material submitted last year, or do you think their focus will be once again on the fibre evidence alone, using the US experts proposed?

 

Not sure - I'd guess fibre maybe via US pressure.

[SIMONJONES]

Hi SimonJones wondering if you have uncovered further evidence other than the silencer and Julie's statement.  With regard the phone call from Ralph to Jeremy all would depend on the circumstances at the minute and none of us are aware just what was happening.  Do you think it is normal behaviour for a woman to identify two small boys in the morgue knowing her sleeping partner was responsible for that and to say nothing to anyone and carry on sharing his bed.  Had she known in advance that Jeremy was going to carry out the murders she should have been charged as an accessory not get a £25.000 payout for selling her story. I would have thought her story more credible if she had come clean sooner other than after he dumped her.  A woman scorned.  Just my humble opinion of course.

Scorned or not - she was faced with no choice in the end.

She sure had a mean hair-do, quite scarey that.

[Lugg]

Sorry, missed the McKay bit.

That's not just me implying it, everyone seems to think he is floundering on this and is headed up a Cul de Sac.

Apologies if I haven't responded to some posts to others - I'm posting on here bewteen painting the ceiling and answering the phone. If I've missed anyone I don't mind the PM route later.

As long as you don't forget yourself and type the ceiling and paint the computer?

[susan]

Hi SimonJones  bet if Jeremy had not dumped her she would have had a choice

[susan]

Hi SimonJones  I was told by good authority that Simon MacKay is doing an excellent job for Jeremy Bamber it seems we all hear different stories.  We shall just have to wait and see and give the man a fair chance.

[susan]

Hi Lugg  I was wondering what info on Mathew MacDonald SJ  had had through it all came from Julie at first.  We have had nothing have we. It was discounted by EP that is enough for me

[campion]

  Re your post #20, A belated HAPPY xMAS, my dear Lugg. I obtained, for you a good copy of ' The Tail of Jeremy Bamber by Beatrix Wilkes, from Abe for 20p. It is now on my bookshelf.

[Patti]

Scorned or not - she was faced with no choice in the end.

She sure had a mean hair-do, quite scarey that.

Sorry, but I think she did have a choice, in fact she had a choice to make from day one, but she chose to stay quiet, why? Was she thinking that one day she would be Mrs Bamber?  Julie took quiet a lot in the way of money, clothes and holidays and not once did she refuse any of it.  It was only when she suffered rejection, did she come out with a mirrored image of the killings that one could only have gained from reading the newspapers and, talking to Jeremy's relatives.  I use the word mirror, because that is what it was, she said nothing that related to the said crimes in reality.......yet claimed Jeremy had told her this that and the other.  I don't buy that he told her anything, because I don't believe that he knew himself... 

I doubt he was insane either when the tragedy happened.  You don't just become insane one day and normal the next.....His behaviour after the killings were atrocious, but that is portrayed by the media, we don't really know how he was feeling....He had to take control at some point there was a business to run and the pressure of that business were that he had to get on with it....

I do like to read opposite views....

[susan]

Hi Patti  an excellent post.  I agree word for word and have posted up on several occasion words to that effect to another certain poster.  Jeremy did not do himself any favours after the murders with his nonsense.  I think the grieving process affects people in different ways from my own point of view it is when you start to try and start your life up as normal is when you grieve and realise the full impact of what you have lost then it is only time that will heal.  People try different methods of easing pain but in the end it is just time.  Not prepared to comment any further on Julie's behaviour.

[Patti]

Hi Patti  an excellent post.  I agree word for word and have posted up on several occasion words to that effect to another certain poster.  Jeremy did not do himself any favours after the murders with his nonsense.  I think the grieving process affects people in different ways from my own point of view it is when you start to try and start your life up as normal is when you grieve and realise the full impact of what you have lost then it is only time that will heal.  People try different methods of easing pain but in the end it is just time.  Not prepared to comment any further on Julie's behaviour.

Hi Susan 

Did he really have time to grieve? Media and police forever at his door, the farm ect? We only see what the meda wants us to see from their point of view.  One photo shot of Jeremy looking daggers sold millions of papers...One shot of him looking sad may have never got published.....for it would not sell him in the light the media wanted to portray him....which was guilty! But is he?