Gases/residue from gun found on nightdress worn by Sheila Caffell...

[big-goolies]

im not a ballistics expert but im sure that when a gun is held by a right handed person the gun is on the right hand side of the body and any residue would be predominately on the right side

[big-goolies]

 
Wether  anti or pro on this matter is everyone missing the point of this whole thread ?
Mike has stated in the opening lines that gas and residue were found on the 'LEFT' side of SC's nightie.... if SC were the killer in the case then are we to think that a righthanded women held and fired a gun useing her left hand ?..... and also has a 100% hit rate at that too 

 
i cant even hit much with a gun in my right side so cant see me hitting anything if i held a gun on my left side

[lookout]

 
i cant even hit much with a gun in my right side so cant see me hitting anything if i held a gun on my left side

BG,,in the right frame of mind,,you'd do it,believe me. You'd suddenly find yourself ambidextrous,no problem.

[big-goolies]

oh the magical world of the make believe....
 
we talking 25/26 bullets all on target from someone use thier opposite hand ?

[big-goolies]

another point would be what ive said in the past about choice of gun... i suppose that if you were to hold a 410 or 12gauge shotgun in your opposite side then you may still get an average hit , but a rifle needs a steady hand to be 100% accurate.

[lookout]

another point would be what ive said in the past about choice of gun... i suppose that if you were to hold a 410 or 12gauge shotgun in your opposite side then you may still get an average hit , but a rifle needs a steady hand to be 100% accurate.

BG,,,I wouldn't have said either hand was steady the way the bullets were pumped into June and Neville.
Anyone with a modicum of knowledge about" lower density" rifles would have " hit the spot " fatally,,,but as it happened,,why so many shots.? Would not a sane person  have stopped shooting the minute they realised a person was dead.? Why carry on in the insane manner that took place.?
I don't think that in Jeremys' 24 years,,that he mustered up much energy for work on the farm,let alone go on the rampage in a frenzied shooting spree.
Sheila was an unknown quantity when it came to her capabilities.

[Patti]

oh the magical world of the make believe....
 
we talking 25/26 bullets all on target from someone use thier opposite hand ?

Hi BG

Please explain what you mean by target?  I have this vision of a dart board with the bulls eye in the middle...which is the highest score of 50....all the rest are misses if that is what you are aiming for.

However you stand back about 4ft is it? might be more, could be less...but, the shooter that shot this family were at the most 2 feet away, whoever it was could hardly miss....IMHO...

[packagebuilder]

  thoses shots were take at point blank range!!

A .22lr semi-auto is very easy to use! even I can hit with a 10p coin sized target at 25yards without telescopic sights!

[Lugg]

thoses shots were take at point blank range!!

A .22lr semi-auto is very easy to use! even I can hit with a 10p coin sized target at 25yards without telescopic sights!

You must be a good shot then? I couldn't even see that target myself.

[packagebuilder]

  it was fired from a prone and with arm sling which holds the gun more steady. I give up shooting .22lr shooting now. without the armband & and fast firing I can still hit the target just! some shooters can hit with a 5p coin sized grouping of 5 shots! at 25yards and all bullseye!

They not that loud aswell, a normal interior door was the range door!!! just a loud cap sound was heard from the rifle!! in WHF a solid house with lots of walls and door could easily muffle the gunshots! the semi-auto GSG MP5 was only a little louder.

[Patti]

thoses shots were take at point blank range!!

A .22lr semi-auto is very easy to use! even I can hit with a 10p coin sized target at 25yards without telescopic sights!

Really!  :D :D :D :D :D 

[big-goolies]

it was fired from a prone and with arm sling which holds the gun more steady. I give up shooting .22lr shooting now. without the armband & and fast firing I can still hit the target just! some shooters can hit with a 5p coin sized grouping of 5 shots! at 25yards and all bullseye!

 
theres the thing you were in a laying down position , which is how most rifles are designed to be used.  in the case of the WHF murders we're to assume that the murderer was carrying the gun and shooting from a standing/walking position and was able to make 100% shots.  im not saying its impossible... more improbable.
 

[Reader]

Quite plausible if the shots were from a few feet (or less) away.