5 Year old missing in Wales.

[gordo30]

Gordo, this man is the one that I believe called the police either on the Monday evening or the Tuesday morning and the press reported it in the above article on the 4th.

Ok mate but it still does not explain the discrepency in the vehicle used. I am still very much out of context regarding the 1st couple of days of this case.

[nugnug]

welsh and english law are the same.

[petey]

I agree to a point here but If it was me and I was innocent wouldn't you want that application for bail to be made? Im not sure even if this is possible in the English court(Im assuming that Wales adheres to English law).

If it was me and I was genuinely innocent I wouldn't want to make an application for bail for two main reasons.

1) We live in a society where vigilante attacks are almost commonplace and I would not feel safe being released on bail.

2) Given that the police have been so quick to charge with murder even tho no body has been found (even though i know i am innocent) I still know that i would 99.99% be refused bail so would not want to apply just to be rejected and put myself in a poorer light.

[gordo30]

Point taken mate but that does highlight the problems this guy is facing if he is indeed innocent.

[nugnug]

the press are being given a hell of a lot of freedom here seeing as a charge has been made.

[petey]

Point taken mate but that does highlight the problems this guy is facing if he is indeed innocent.

I agree.

But as an example look at how Jimmy Savile is being portrayed in the media and openly dubbed a rapist and paedophile. I agree that it looks highly likely that he is guilty of a numer of crimes BUT he has already been found guilty by little more than trial by media.

The evidence against him although it looks damming as portrayed in the tv documentary, has not been challenged in a court of law or properly scrutinised by the police, cps, solicitors etc. Only then can a proper, accurate judgement be recorded against Jimmy Savile, yet already 99.9% of society have probably reached their conclusion.

(I am certainly not defending at all the alleged actions of Jimmy Savile which if proved / accepted to be true, are absolutely horrific and sickening.

[OnceSaid]

You were right nugnug he was arrested for suspicion of murder before he was charged for murder.

The charges have to change as they need a reason to hold him for longer, it started off with suspicion of abduction then escalated

I was having a look at the time line.  He was arrested at 3.30.  The 2 girls saw a man with a black bag at the river at 1pm, another man was seen walking along the river, unsure if it were the same man or whether any of them was Bridger, but he was arrested approx 2 miles away.  How long would it take to walk 2 miles?  Its not going to take 2 and a half hours, well it might take me that long but not someone who used to be a life guard.

[Patti]

What gets me is the fact he was re-arrested for suspicion last Friday then he was charged with murder on the Saturday.

This tells me that he has not admitted anything at this stage, for it was arrested on suspicion only.

I dare bet he will plead not guilty tomorrow.......

[nugnug]

The charges have to change as they need a reason to hold him for longer, it started off with suspicion of abduction then escalated

I was having a look at the time line.  He was arrested at 3.30.  The 2 girls saw a man with a black bag at the river at 1pm, another man was seen walking along the river, unsure if it were the same man or whether any of them was Bridger, but he was arrested approx 2 miles away.  How long would it take to walk 2 miles?  Its not going to take 2 and a half hours, well it might take me that long but not someone who used to be a life guard.

not that long when i was in better health i could walk 2 miles in about half an hour.

[gordo30]

I feel he has to plead not guilty tomorrow all be it if he is or not. The police have very little on him and to make a case stick without a body will be extremely hard. This will be interesting tomorrow as it will say a lot about him. If he pleads guilty then why not give up everything about about the case and let the family and community give the little girl the most beautiful and respectful burial they can. Why not let a country disgusted over this crime a chance to at least see the right thing done.

[Patti]

The charges have to change as they need a reason to hold him for longer, it started off with suspicion of abduction then escalated

I was having a look at the time line.  He was arrested at 3.30.  The 2 girls saw a man with a black bag at the river at 1pm, another man was seen walking along the river, unsure if it were the same man or whether any of them was Bridger, but he was arrested approx 2 miles away.  How long would it take to walk 2 miles?  Its not going to take 2 and a half hours, well it might take me that long but not someone who used to be a life guard.

Hi I am not sure that is correct. By law they can only hold him for 90 something hours. They had already stated that on the Thursday, that this would take it to Saturday at 5pm. I don't think a re-arrest is a requirement?

I think the police were getting anxious and tried to push him into some sort of admission by the re-arrest.  I might be wrong.

The fact still remains that the police delivered certain facts to the CPS which in turn made it a murder charge.  We don't know what those facts/evidence is yet......  

Was not two women who saw a man with a black bag?

[OnceSaid]

as ive said before he cant have any previos child related offence or he would not have been allowed to enter a school.

Ano, Ano, but maybe he's one that slipped through the net.

Personally I would be shocked if he had previous for crimes against children.

I would say that preverts are more likely to target women with young children, not find women and have children with them like Bridger done.

[petey]

Ano, Ano, but maybe he's one that slipped through the net.

Personally I would be shocked if he had previous for crimes against children.

I would say that preverts are more likely to target women with young children, not find women and have children with them like Bridger done.

So you are assuming him guilty already?!

[gordo30]

I share your frustration here oncesaid but in truth nugnug is right, how do we explain the actions(if we can) what is the motive? It seems like take, murder.conceal and dispose as per the police investigation and view point but what is there in it for the perpetraitor?
I recall someone telling me don't try and think like them because our brain doesn't think like them but I have to understand or at least try.

We have a guy who by all intense and purpose loved his own kids and knew April personally, what makes him a killer?

[gordo30]

So you are assuming him guilty already?!

That was not his suggestion mate, I just sensed his need for a reason in all this but in no way was he claiming that the guy was guilty.