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Offline Patti

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Re: 5 Year old missing in Wales.
« Reply #195 on: October 09, 2012, 10:30:PM »
ill see if i can find a timeline somewhere.

Here is one nugnug.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-19826174

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Re: 5 Year old missing in Wales.
« Reply #196 on: October 09, 2012, 10:35:PM »
You were right nugnug he was arrested for suspicion of murder before he was charged for murder.

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Re: 5 Year old missing in Wales.
« Reply #197 on: October 09, 2012, 10:36:PM »
I wonder if he will be asked how he pleads tomorrow in court?  :-\ :-\ :-\

Im not sure what the court appearance is for tomorrow patti but I suspect it has to be a plea. If he pleads not guilty what do they do when the recommendation for bail comes up? What do they state should happen as he has not been jailed previously and they may not even produce enough evidence for certain charges to be upheld. Waht exactly do the magistrates detain him without bail on exactly, his own safety? well by god that shows the whole case up to be what it is just now!!.

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Re: 5 Year old missing in Wales.
« Reply #198 on: October 09, 2012, 10:37:PM »
you very rarely get bail on a murder charge

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Re: 5 Year old missing in Wales.
« Reply #199 on: October 09, 2012, 10:39:PM »
They have to provide evidence that he has murdered the girl in the 1st place, it has to be concrete. when have you seen charges brought against someone who murdered that were that of concealing a body and disposal? they have been clutching at straws somewhat and will need to back it up and thats why the big push in the intense searching.
« Last Edit: October 09, 2012, 10:41:PM by gordo30 »

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Re: 5 Year old missing in Wales.
« Reply #200 on: October 09, 2012, 10:41:PM »
A 70 year old last night claimed he was the last man to see April alive. ‘I was home on Monday night as usual and saw little April playing outside with her friends,’ he said.

‘They were riding their bikes up and down the street like they have been all summer.
‘A driver kept cruising up and down the road where the kids were playing.

'I thought it was a little odd but nothing more and then I noticed it parked up next to the garages which was strange because no one would park there usually.

'The kids were still playing at that point.
‘But suddenly they weren’t there and I noticed the car drive briskly down the road towards the town centre.’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2212734/April-Jones-latest-news-Mark-Bridgers-home-searched-hunt-continues.html#ixzz28qA1XlJC

This man must have been able to describe the car, van, white, grey, blue, whatever it was so no need to rely on just the child for a description

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Re: 5 Year old missing in Wales.
« Reply #201 on: October 09, 2012, 10:45:PM »
That puts a slightly different slant on things doesn't it, was it a light van or dark 4x4? or is he just someone who has embelished what he saw in the aftermath of the hysteria that has came about. why this now so far on?
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Re: 5 Year old missing in Wales.
« Reply #202 on: October 09, 2012, 10:46:PM »
why are witneses being allowed to talk to the press.

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Re: 5 Year old missing in Wales.
« Reply #203 on: October 09, 2012, 10:53:PM »
you very rarely get bail on a murder charge

Magistrates courts can NEVER grant bail on a murder charge.

Tomorrow he is appearing at a crown court which CAN grant bail but only in exceptional circumstances.

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Re: 5 Year old missing in Wales.
« Reply #204 on: October 09, 2012, 11:00:PM »
Its all up in the air here mate as I was of the understanding that the parents meeting at the school was in the afternoon. So off to swimming lessons afterwards. I know the father is almost blind so I would suggest yes either the mother of step grandfather took them along to the pool but I would doubt that she was left alone at the pool. If it was my kids I would have quite happily watched them progress in their swimming and got them ready to go home afterwards. It would be interesting to know if any of Bridger's kids attended the same pool or if he was at the centre that may have had a gym or such at the same time.

If you remember the case just a few weeks ago of the young girl from Croydon that went missing, It took what 4/5 days to find her and by proxy of where she was found they could charge those responsible, no problem there but that was the Met force at work, big budgets and all the experienced staff they needed and yet it took days to even find the poor girl who hadn't even left the house at all!! We have a case here where officers were dispatched to an address that Bridger had stayed in but had asked a neighbour where the residents were, she replied that she didn't know where they were but that the previous resident she had seen only minuets before walking along the road Bridger would later be arrested on. Bridger was the man they had went round to talk to only 17 hours after the abduction! and must have been on the radar before then. This guy had to have been known to the police or under some sort of survailance before all this kicked off.

Powys county council confirmed that Mr Bridger attended a parents’ evening at the primary school in Machynlleth, where his own daughter and April are pupils.

April’s parents, Coral and Paul, were reportedly still at the parents’ evening when April, who was playing outside on her bicycle, disappeared.

A source said that at one point Mr Bridger’s Land Rover blocked the one-way road in front of the primary school, preventing another parent from getting away.

Another witness said he saw him driving through the Bryn-y-Gog estate, where April lives, at 6pm on Monday.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9588326/April-Jones-Mark-Bridger-was-at-school-parents-evening.html

I was just thinking about that case that you refer to Gordo and to my shame I couldnt even remember the name of the girl or her killer.  The reason that case had come to mind was that there was constant reports and so much detail of the case, but yet in this one there is the same old same old, but nothing really negative at all being reported about Bridges.  I hope they have the right person.  I'm hoping that he has confessed to murdering April and that they have masses of evidence against him.  I dread to think that he has previous for child related offences that the police knew about, or other offences which meant he was under prior investigation, and that the police are witholding any information from the public.  I also dread to think that they have nothing concrete but I am giving the police the benefit of doubt, as nothing else makes sense as to why they would have an arrest, charge, child dead, and no body.  They wouldnt put their neck on the line and basically declare her dead within days if they thought she was being held by someone else, surely.

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Re: 5 Year old missing in Wales.
« Reply #205 on: October 09, 2012, 11:03:PM »
Magistrates courts can NEVER grant bail on a murder charge.

Tomorrow he is appearing at a crown court which CAN grant bail but only in exceptional circumstances.

i cant see him getting bail on a charge like this i never heard of it happening before.

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Re: 5 Year old missing in Wales.
« Reply #206 on: October 09, 2012, 11:06:PM »
i cant see him getting bail on a charge like this i never heard of it happening before.

I don't think he will get bail nugnug. If the police have forensic evidence, he would be seen as a threat to the public....I think we should wait and see what he pleads.... :-\ :-\

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Re: 5 Year old missing in Wales.
« Reply #207 on: October 09, 2012, 11:08:PM »
i cant see him getting bail on a charge like this i never heard of it happening before.

It has happened before, but only in exceptional circumstances. I agree that he will not get bail tomorrow and I'm sure he won't even make an application for bail.

Only this month a man was granted bail having been accused of murder at the V festival, because he had to conclude a £12 million business deal on which a numer of jobs depended.

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Re: 5 Year old missing in Wales.
« Reply #208 on: October 09, 2012, 11:11:PM »
That puts a slightly different slant on things doesn't it, was it a light van or dark 4x4? or is he just someone who has embelished what he saw in the aftermath of the hysteria that has came about. why this now so far on?

Gordo, this man is the one that I believe called the police either on the Monday evening or the Tuesday morning and the press reported it in the above article on the 4th.

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Re: 5 Year old missing in Wales.
« Reply #209 on: October 09, 2012, 11:12:PM »
It has happened before, but only in exceptional circumstances. I agree that he will not get bail tomorrow and I'm sure he won't even make an application for bail.

Only this month a man was granted bail having been accused of murder at the V festival, because he had to conclude a £12 million business deal on which a numer of jobs depended.

I agree to a point here but If it was me and I was innocent wouldn't you want that application for bail to be made? Im not sure even if this is possible in the English court(Im assuming that Wales adheres to English law).