Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...

[lookout]

Susan he needed her visiting the cottage to have the excuse of the bicycle to ride. The conversations are going from Julie Mugford's testimony which records conversations they had together over the period you are talking about.

Nobody needed any excuse to ride a bicycle for goodness sake,,least of all Jeremy who had a good car. The suggestion of a bicycle was for Julies' use to cycle from Goldhanger to the farm when Jeremy was at work.
Supposition and autosuggestion  like that doesn't work on here,Steve

[Moe Cassani]

Nobody needed any excuse to ride a bicycle for goodness sake,,least of all Jeremy who had a good car. The suggestion of a bicycle was for Julies' use to cycle from Goldhanger to the farm when Jeremy was at work.
Supposition and autosuggestion  like that doesn't work on here,Steve

Erm.....lookout have you actually read some of your own posts? Maybe hypocrisy does?

[grahameb]

So.......Julie knew that JB had executed his family,including 2 sleeping little boys.
If she really believed this,then how long do we think the sheer horror of it all would hit her and she should go to the police?
On the morning of the murders?
After a visit with a devastated Colin?
After viewing their bodies at the mortuary?
After the twins funeral?

Or after JB dumps her and takes up with another woman.

After hearing whispers that Jeremy was being blamed for the tragedy, she was surely worried as to what was going to be exposed regarding any previous criminal activities she and JB had undertaken.
Now,Julie has lost the man she loves,any inheritance that Im sure she hoped to benefit from and her dream of a teaching career now in jeopardy.

Now is when she decides to go to the police.

See pictures F11.jpg and F12.jpg. This reveals everything about Julie Mugford that you need to know. Her face betrays the fact that she did not suspect Jeremy at all.
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,887.0.html

[Jane]

..because she had been going steady with him for two years and saw that in many ways he was just immature and insecure,and when presented with the fait accompli she stayed by his side as many women have done in the past. The murders were over,they were past events and both Julie and Jeremy were looking to the future,though in different directions. I'm not sure they were ever alone together anyhow during those five weeks;I believe Jeremy made the excuse that they had better not talk privately in case the Maida Vale Flat were bugged.

Staying with a man she regards as immature and insecure tells me that she saw an opportunity to manipulate. Why else would a university educated woman choose to stay with such a person? Please don't tell me love because love needs to be fed, and I don't mean with things, I mean with similar intelligence, similar aspirations and expectations. So, what about sex? OK, WHAT about sex!!!!! It was wonderful!!! So is a good steak, cooked the way you like it, but how many variations are there of ways to cook steak? In the end, wouldn't you just long for any damn thing as long as it's not steak.

So, murders committed. All done and dusted, in the past. Forgotten. They can now look forward to the future!!!!! I trust it's her psychopathy which you're presenting here. At the very least, her mental faculties have to come into question if she accepts what her immature boyfriend says about a flat being bugged. Who did she think was involved, MI5?

[Bridget]

I know it seems silly April, but he was under surveillance in the September, and he knew it.

[Steve_uk]

April,,JM knew full well that Jeremy hadn't murdered anyone,,but because there was another woman on the scene,,she put on a display of sheer spite and scorn,,then added to it until she became in too deep so had to scarper,,as you would if you'd told tales like that which would land them in prison. In the end,,she must have convinced herself. One day,,she might just see the error of her ways. No wonder she doesn't want to see him released. Just as if he's going to do anything,,good God,,he's been incarcerated for nothing as it is.
It was purely and simply a revenge attack from JM,,,trouble was,,it went a bit further than she'd anticipated.

The man you are all describing is a monster who has convinced himself over the course of twenty seven years when everyone else has been getting on with their lives that he hasn't done it. Do you seriously expect me to believe that Jeremy Bamber talks to his victims inside his head from his prison cell every day and takes solace from the maxims of his father,a man who was not his real father and who was disappointed at the very least in him because he did not fit into his idea of a son?

It's high time Jeremy came clean in this case and admitted that he went through a phase as a young man bordering on sociopathy towards his adopted family,who may well for a man of limited intellect been difficult to live with. He should apologize to Colin and the other relatives and apologize to the criminal justice system for wasting so much Police time. He won't yet because he still has too much to lose and is clinging on in the vain hope that sometimes convictions are quashed when a guilty man persists in maintaining his innocence,such as the wife who asked by her husband to write suicide notes and was found a short time later hanging by the neck in the family garage.

[Roch]

So.......Julie knew that JB had executed his family,including 2 sleeping little boys.
If she really believed this,then how long do we think the sheer horror of it all would hit her and she should go to the police?
On the morning of the murders?
After a visit with a devastated Colin?
After viewing their bodies at the mortuary?
After the twins funeral?

Or after JB dumps her and takes up with another woman.

After hearing whispers that Jeremy was being blamed for the tragedy, she was surely worried as to what was going to be exposed regarding any previous criminal activities she and JB had undertaken.
Now,Julie has lost the man she loves,any inheritance that Im sure she hoped to benefit from and her dream of a teaching career now in jeopardy.

Now is when she decides to go to the police.

Great post.  Bang on.  I think she got wind that Jeremy's world was about to cave in.  Given the brief handed to Ainsley and DS Jones, I feel that somebody got to her.  Her 'unburdening' could then be engineered. 

[susan]

Hi lookout I think you are more able than me to comment on steve's latest ridiculous post.

[susan]

Great post tyler hope steve is reading it.

[grahameb]

The man you are all describing is a monster who has convinced himself over the course of twenty seven years when everyone else has been getting on with their lives that he hasn't done it. Do you seriously expect me to believe that Jeremy Bamber talks to his victims inside his head from his prison cell every day and takes solace from the maxim's of his father,a man who was not his real father and who was disappointed at the very least in him because he did not fit into his idea of a son?

It's high time Jeremy came clean in this case and admitted that he went through a phase as a young man bordering on sociopathy towards his adopted family,who may well for a man of limited intellect been difficult to live with. He should apologize to Colin and the other relatives and apologize to the criminal justice system for wasting so much Police time. He won't yet because he still has too much to lose and is clinging on in the vain hope that sometimes convictions are quashed when a guilty man persists in maintaining his innocence,such as the wife who asked by her husband to write suicide notes and was found a short time later hanging by the neck in the family garage.

No. After reading some of the rubbish you have written. No one who thinks intelligently expects you to believe anything serious. It seems that you have concocted senarios that arise not from the facts but from the chain of events that have knitted themselves together within your own head.

[Patti]

The man you are all describing is a monster who has convinced himself over the course of twenty seven years when everyone else has been getting on with their lives that he hasn't done it. Do you seriously expect me to believe that Jeremy Bamber talks to his victims inside his head from his prison cell every day and takes solace from the maxim's of his father,a man who was not his real father and who was disappointed at the very least in him because he did not fit into his idea of a son?

It's high time Jeremy came clean in this case and admitted that he went through a phase as a young man bordering on sociopathy towards his adopted family,who may well for a man of limited intellect been difficult to live with. He should apologize to Colin and the other relatives and apologize to the criminal justice system for wasting so much Police time. He won't yet because he still has too much to lose and is clinging on in the vain hope that sometimes convictions are quashed when a guilty man persists in maintaining his innocence,such as the wife who asked by her husband to write suicide notes and was found a short time later hanging by the neck in the family garage.

Sorry Steve but JB is in inside serving a life sentence, because of lies and made up stories....He is innocent. He did not have a fair trial and he deserves a chance...that is our democratic right, of which is being refused. 

[grahameb]

Sorry Steve but JB is in inside serving a life sentence, because of lies and made up stories....He is innocent. He did not have a fair trial and he deserves a chance...that is our democratic right, of which is being refused. 

He never did have a fair trial. Why don't people realise the fact that it is the prosecution's job to make a case against the accused by hook or by crook? Mostly by crook. The daily withold evidence from the defence. This is common practice. Why are people so gullible so as to believe and trust these vultures of the law?

[lookout]

Erm.....lookout have you actually read some of your own posts? Maybe hypocrisy does?

Be quiet,Moe.    Of course I read my posts.I know what I'm doing. Do you.?
A hypocrite,I'm not.!

[Steve_uk]

See pictures F11.jpg and F12.jpg. This reveals everything about Julie Mugford that you need to know. Her face betrays the fact that she did not suspect Jeremy at all.
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,887.0.html

I don't see the significance of those two photographs grahame as regards the character of Julie Mugford. Could you possibly elucidate?

[Jane]

No. After reading some of the rubbish you have written. No one who thinks intelligently expects you to believe anything serious. It seems that you have concocted senarios that arise not from the facts but from the chain of events that have knitted themselves together within your own head.

GO GRAHAME!!!!! YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE