A third version of events of 7th August 1985

[Roch]

Absolutely Bridget. This is the core of the supporters entire argument - dismissal of what they see. I thought about this carefuly - what evidence is there to suggest (without all the window-dressing) Sheila Caffell was responsible for these murders? The only conclusion I could come to was...none whatsoever. Since Jeremy phone the police himself and claimed his father had said that Sheila had got crazy and has got the gun' This evidentely leaves only him. There is NO other explanation. The phonecall was his fatal mistake.
This is the whole crux of the case and everything else has just been inserted to muddy the waters, and cloud the issue. Bamber practically fell overself blaming his sister which he strangely described as a 'depressive psychopath' to a policeman outside the farm, one wonders where he obtained this diagnosis? I strongly suspect it was part of a ploy for him to prime the police officers into making sure that they accepted his version of events.
The use of the term 'psychopath' is an interesting one. I will leave it to you to decide why Bamber chose this word when he had absolutely no right or reason to since he was supposed to be unaware of what had recently unfolded inside the house.

Anything that implicated SC was removed from the second investigation's case file.  Not only had they previously built up a case around it being SC, they had that very same case reviewed.  The review confirmed SC's culpability.  But the answer was not the right answer, in terms of the reviewer not giving them the answer they wanted to hear.   People harp on about transparency regarding statements not posted up on here.  Let's see the original evidence that implicated SC.  Let's see the evidence  that was reviewed by the senior cop reporting to the top brass.
 

[Steve_uk]

Anything that implicated SC was removed from the second investigation's case file.  Not only had they previously built up a case around it being SC, they had that very same case reviewed.  The review confirmed SC's culpability.  But the answer was not the right answer, in terms of the reviewer not giving them the answer they wanted to hear.   People harp on about transparency regarding statements not posted up on here.  Let's see the original evidence that implicated SC.  Let's see the evidence  that was reviewed by the senior cop reporting to the top brass.

There was no concrete evidence it being Sheila apart from her being in situ with a rifle which Jeremy had left out the previous evening. In many ways it was the perfect crime which explains Jeremy's reticence towards the Police and his "that is what you have to establish" jibe to the Prosecution at Chelmsford Crown Court.

[Roch]

There was no concrete evidence it being Sheila apart from her being in situ with a rifle which Jeremy had left out the previous evening. In many ways it was the perfect crime which explains Jeremy's reticence towards the Police and his "that is what you have to establish" jibe to the Prosecution at Chelmsford Crown Court.

Ok Steve.  So the senior detective tasked with reviewing the case (by the detective who eventually took over the case) merely reviewed the fact that SC ahd been found with a rifle on top of her...  and from this... concluded that DCI Thomas Jones was indeed correct?  He was reporting to Bunyard the top bloke in EP.

Bit of a pointless exercise don't you think?  There was nothing else for him to review?

[Steve_uk]

Ok Steve.  So the senior detective tasked with reviewing the case (by the detective who eventually took over the case) merely reviewed the fact that SC ahd been found with a rifle on top of her...  and from this... concluded that DCI Thomas Jones was indeed correct?  He was reporting to Bunyard the top bloke in EP.

Bit of a pointless exercise don't you think?  There was nothing else for him to review?

I'm sure they would have gone to town on the bible,the suicide notes and Dr.Hugh Ferguson's psychiatric reports. And who else could it have been at that stage. It looked like it was Sheila,the Police wanted to believe it was "a domestic" and therefore Sheila,so why create unnecessary work when it was all cut and dried.

[Roch]

I'm sure they would have gone to town on the bible,the suicide notes and Dr.Hugh Ferguson's psychiatric reports. And who else could it have been at that stage. It looked like it was Sheila,the Police wanted to believe it was "a domestic" and therefore Sheila,so why create unnecessary work when it was all cut and dried.

What is Ainsley doing, asking another senior detective to review the case evidence, and report to Simpson / Bunyard, prior to him self actually taking over the case?  Ainsley / Simpson trying to engineer something in front of Bunyard?  Tell me why Kinneally didn't play ball|?

[tyler]

I have always wondered if Sheila gave any indication of anything in her diary,that the police took possession of.

[grahameb]

I have always wondered if Sheila gave any indication of anything in her diary,that the police took possession of.

One more thing that the court did not see?

[lookout]

One more thing that the court did not see?

Yes,,diaries. Eddie Gilfoyle was sitting in a cell for 18 years,,,16 of those years went by when the police "realised" they were sitting on diaries that could have exonerated him before his sentence started.

[grahameb]

Yes,,diaries. Eddie Gilfoyle was sitting in a cell for 18 years,,,16 of those years went by when the police "realised" they were sitting on diaries that could have exonerated him before his sentence started.

So where is Sheila's diary?

[tyler]

So where is Sheila's diary?

Was returned to the relatives some time after JBs conviction as it was said to reveal things that could potentially embarrass them.

[grahameb]

Was returned to the relatives some time after JBs conviction as it was said to reveal things that could potentially embarrass them.

Wouldn't that be termed "witholding evidence"?

[Jane]

Wouldn't that be termed "witholding evidence"?

Is there ANY part of this investigation that the rellies didn't have a hand in or have some control of? So what, if there was potential embarrassment for them in Sheila's diaries, it wasn't about THEM, it was about truth, something which appears to have been thrown into a cesspit and forgotten!!!!!!............and breeeeeeeeeth! Sorry folks, rant over, better now.

[mertol22]

Was returned to the relatives some time after JBs conviction as it was said to reveal things that could potentially embarrass them.

A dairy normally has dates inside together with events does a copy of that dairy exist somewhere ?