Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...

[Roch]

If you follow the line of the necklace , it appears obvious !!

Well spotted Jon.

[Jane]

Sorry to have to repeatedly post graphic images.  In all photos, look for the beveled end of the barrel.

I can only pt it in very naive form. In the small picture the business end (bevelled?) appears to be touching her chain and pointing towards her wounds. In the larger pictures it appears to bypass her wounds and point towards her lelt ear.

[Roch]

I can only put it in very naive form. In the small picture the business end (bevelled?) appears to be touching her chain and pointing towards her wounds. In the larger pictures it appears to bypass her wounds and point towards her left ear.

It's patently obvious that the rifle has been moved.  The reason why I asked what position it was in, in the wet photo, was to see if it fitted with my suggestion that it had been moved lower, to fit better with the wounds, i.e. to fit better with 'suicide'. 

[Caroline R]

The last three are photo's from number 27 Bridget. The 1st photo is from 27......I know what you have gone out for, please don't get inebriated....lololol 

The ist picture is clearly different to the other 3 - the rifle has been moved. There is no where you could stand that would make the end of the rifle look that far down in comparison to the other three. I have a friend who is a professional photographer - I'll ask what he thinks.

[Patti]

I've been a bit rough today my self Patti.  I need to go on a health kick 

Roch if we join the same clinic we could have a serious chat about this case....lol 

[Roch]

The ist picture is clearly different to the other 3 - the rifle has been moved. There is no where you could stand that would make the end of the rifle look that far down in comparison to the other three. I have a friend who is a professional photographer - I'll ask what he thinks.

If you lay or crouched very low at hip level and took a photo across the top of the rifle, it might be possible to create an illusion that it was higher.  No pics taken at such a low angle have been displayed on this forum

[Roch]

Roch if we join the same clinic we could have a serious chat about this case....lol 

I'm bookin my self in to a steamed broccoli clinic from Monday 

[Patti]

I'm bookin my self in to a steamed broccoli clinic from Monday 

Ha! I'm booking myself into a beer festival, are you coming...lol 

[Roch]

Ha! I'm booking myself into a beer festival, are you coming...lol 

Is it Munich? 

[Patti]

Is it Munich? 

Nah Manchester....lol 

[Bridget]

Documented facts Bridget. The rifle was moved to uncover the blood at the wrist, see Cooks statement. Then the rifle had been made safe and was photographed from the stairs, by PC Bird where it was propt up against the window of the main bedroom...

PC BirdPC Bird took 27 on his 2nd visit, which is documented....look at the blood marks on her nightie...it is obvious that 32 was taken before 27.....

Where is it documented that he took 32 on his first visit and 27 on his his second?

[mike tesko]

Contrary to what some are suggesting, (angle of photographs accounts for rile barrel appearing to be resting against neck / throat in 27 as opposed to 32), you only have to study the detail in this image to confirm that the barrel is resting against Sheila's neck:-



"Shadow along length of barrel is consistent along its entire length, which would not be the case if the end part of the barrel was in the position shown in image 32"...



By studying features of 32, you can see that the shadow relating to the end of the rifles barrel (which is not touching the neck / throat) is offset to the left because of the angle at which the photographer took this particular picture. This phenomena is not reproduced in 27, when because if the end of the rifle barrel was not in contact with the body, the shadow should be displayed differently to what it is - the length and characteristics of the shadow, therefore, along the entire length of the photograph (first image in this post) above, establishes that in 27 the barrel was resting physically against the body, rather than hovering above it...

[Bridget]

Contrary to what some are suggesting, (angle of photographs accounts for rile barrel appearing to be resting against neck / throat in 27 as opposed to 32), you only have to study the detail in this image to confirm that the barrel is resting against Sheila's neck:-

"Shadow along length of barrel is consistent along its entire length, which would not be the case if the end part of the barrel was in the position shown in image 32"...

It is not physically possible for the barrel to be resting on the left hand side of Sheila's neck as it appears to do in photo 27. Look at this b&w photo:



The rifle butt is central to her body, laying as it is along the line where her legs meet. The trigger is roughly in the groin area, and the gun changes angle at that point and draws a line from the groin to the right hand side of her chest, and because of the angle the photo is taken from appears to extend up towards the point of her chin. If viewed from a point on the floor beside Sheila, the gun would also elevate along its length from butt to muzzle, because in a person of normal weight the legs and pelvis are quite a bit lower than the front of the chest when laying on the back.

Now photo 32:



The butt end of the gun is still central to her body and the barrel is still resting on the right hand side of the chest, so that the gun is actually pointing slightly towards the photographer and is also raised towards him. You can see that the barrel is actually a few inches above the neck and collar bone by the shadow. Because of the angle the photo has been taken the barrel appears to be foreshortened.

Photo 27:



The butt is still central to her body, and the barrel still angles from the groin across the right hand side of the chest. It is physically impossible for it to then touch the left hand side of her neck, because it would have to bend not only in that direction, but also downwards. What you are seeing in 27 is the barrel in front of and above that side of her neck, and it is also lengthened by the angle of the photo. If you still don't believe me find an average sized woman, lay her on the floor with a stick in the position of the gun. You will see for yourself exactly what I describe.

[jon]

For the gun not to have been moved , you must be able to see the necklace in both photographs !!

[Bridget]

For the gun not to have been moved , you must be able to see the necklace in both photographs !!

You can see the necklace in both photographs. The reason the gun appears to have moved in relation to the necklace is described above. The barrel of the gun is several inches above and to the right (her right) of her neck. Try it.