Lies told about state of blood (SC) - easily disproved...

[Bridget]

Not correct my dear Bridget, for if one is wet they are all wet....It is that the one that we see in true colour has been developed from a negative...in high resolution...

If you think there is only one wet one, then that wet one was taken after the rifle had been moved....which could suggest that she had recently been shot....

Hello btw...X

Hello Ms P x

I know, but you're just confusing Roch and his brains are gonna fry. He means the one that actually shows what is being described as wet blood.

[Jane]

Hey April...Nice to see you....Look at the images on conversation 57...I think the rifle is in the same position.

Then look at the numbered photo's  27 and 32.    The rifle is in a different position in each shot.   

Yes, Patti. But can you explain why, with her head inclined to the right, there is heavier bloodflow from the left side of her mouth than from the right?

[Patti]

Hello Ms P x

I know, but you're just confusing Roch and his brains are gonna fry. He means the one that actually shows what is being described as wet blood.

The one that shows the wet blood was taken after the rifle had been moved.  The rifle position is not in the correct place.  PC Bird took photographs twice in the bedroom.  It is documented. Why he was called back to do a re-take is not known....I'd like to know why? For you would have thought that after he had taken all the photo's of the crime scene, that was it, but apparently not, he went back and too some more....which is unusual..... 

[Bridget]

The one that shows the wet blood was taken after the rifle had been moved.  The rifle position is not in the correct place.  PC Bird took photographs twice in the bedroom.  It is documented. Why he was called back to do a re-take is not known....I'd like to know why? For you would have thought that after he had taken all the photo's of the crime scene, that was it, but apparently not, he went back and too some more....which is unusual..... 

The wet blood one is 27, and I believe that was taken before 32. But anyway, I disagree that the rifle is in different positions in those two photos, it just looks like a  change in camera positions to me. Maybe someone could do some experiments with a broomstick and post the results?

[mike tesko]

The wet blood one is 27, and I believe that was taken before 32. But anyway, I disagree that the rifle is in different positions in those two photos, it just looks like a  change in camera positions to me. Maybe someone could do some experiments with a broomstick and post the results?

It has got northing whatsoever to do with the angle that the photographs (27 and 32) were taken at  - er when did you say you were due to have your eyes tested?

Barrel of rifle resting against Sheila's neck / throat in 27, and beneath chin in other (32)...

[Bridget]

It has got northing whatsoever to do with the angle that the photographs (27 and 32) were taken at  - er when did you say you were due to have your eyes tested?

Ha ha! It has, IMO.

[mike tesko]

Ha ha! It has, IMO.

Now you are being quite ridiculous, everyone can see the barrel in 27 is resting against the left side of Sheila's throat (it is in physical contact) and that in 32 it is not, it has not got anything at all to do with the angle the pictures were taken, police stage managed the body with the rifle in different positions against her throat and beneath her throat. You would be very hard pushed to get any photographic expert to back you up on that fantasy I am afraid...

Stop being silly...





"Look at these two crime scene photographs, one numbered 27 and the other numbered 32 - which was taken first"?

[Patti]

Yes, Patti. But can you explain why, with her head inclined to the right, there is heavier bloodflow from the left side of her mouth than from the right?

well spotted april. I hadn't noticed that before. No I can that. I might be able to give a theory on why all the blood flow right...which is because she was lunged on her right side...she may have flipped back on the 2nd shot...and this is why her head appears to be at an angle...

[Bridget]

Now you are being quite ridiculous, everyone can see the barrel in 27 is resting against the left side of Sheila's throat (it is in physical contact) and that in 32 it is not, it has not got anything at all to do with the angle the pictures were taken, police stage managed the body with the rifle in different position s against her throat and beneath her throat. You would be very hard pushed to get any photographic expert to back you up on that fantasy I am afraid...

Stop being silly...

Honestly Mike, to me it looks like in 27 the the barrel is above her neck and has lined up with it due to the angle, but is not in contact with it. If you look at 32 you can see by the shadow of the barrel that's it's a few inches above her body because it's propped up on her chest (sorry folks, I can't avoid pointing out here that Sheila had breast implants). If you were to tip the barrel down so that it touched her neck it would pivot on her chest and the butt would be up in the air.

[Patti]

Number 32 is taken before 27......That is all I am saying...

[Bridget]

Number 32 is taken before 27......That is all I am saying...

Based on what?

[mike tesko]

Honestly Mike, to me it looks like in 27 the the barrel is above her neck and has lined up with it due to the angle, but is not in contact with it. If you look at 32 you can see by the shadow of the barrel that's it's a few inches above her body because it's propped up on her chest (sorry folks, I can't avoid pointing out here that Sheila had breast implants). If you were to tip the barrel down so that it touched her neck it would pivot on her chest and the butt would be up in the air.

No chance whatsoever, turn 32 sideways so that head is turned in same direction, there is absolutely no way the guns barrel is in the same position in both phoptographs...

[Bridget]

No chance whatsoever, turn 32 sideways so that head is turned in same direction, there is absolutely no way the guns barrel is in the same position in both phoptographs...

I've looked at them every which way and still come to the same conclusion. 32 is taken from a different angle to 27. Girls, try it, find a stick and lay on the floor with it on your body - see what happens when you try to make it touch your neck (it won't work for you Mike, your beer gut will get in the way )

[mike tesko]

I've looked at them every which way and still come to the same conclusion. 32 is taken from a different angle to 27. Girls, try it, find a stick and lay on the floor with it on your body - see what happens when you try to make it touch your neck (it won't work for you Mike, your beer gut will get in the way )

Visible shadow on neck in image 32 defines how far up the neck the barrel of the rifle could be, if laid against the body, there is no way you or anybody could say that by changing the angle of the photograph it could displace the barrel as shown in 27 to a different position in 32...

[Patti]

Based on what?

Documented facts Bridget. The rifle was moved to uncover the blood at the wrist, see Cooks statement. Then the rifle had been made safe and was photographed from the stairs, by PC Bird where it was propt up against the window of the main bedroom...

PC BirdPC Bird took 27 on his 2nd visit, which is documented....look at the blood marks on her nightie...it is obvious that 32 was taken before 27.....