Rifle flush with body, gun barrel under chin, clue...

[Bridget]

Sorry there are 5 spent bullet weighing over 2,26gms 

You beat me to it..

[Patti]

I agree, she was talking about the box room. I've forgotten who Brown was though..

it was Mrs Brown's husband...lol

No he was one of the raid team PC Brown. I don't think he entered the building...so please don't quote me on that...I also read that when he saw the rifle, it was then the raid team entered the building, but this is not documented, if it is then I can't find it...I read it on a website, but please don't ask me which one...

[Patti]

You beat me to it..

I'm going to check up on DRH/35 because I do know there were whole bullets found...and there were approx 4 possibly 5...if one counts the one on the kitchen top at the side of the sink...I'll be back...

I'm wrong on this....The two bullets must have been exit bullets....the weight is 2.43 and 2.44

He compares the two bullets with the test fire...which he concludes are similar to having been fired from 18. Check date on the 11th September. Don't shout at me...

[Bridget]

it was Mrs Brown's husband...lol

No he was one of the raid team PC Brown. I don't think he entered the building...so please don't quote me on that...I also read that when he saw the rifle, it was then the raid team entered the building, but this is not documented, if it is then I can't find it...I read it on a website, but please don't ask me which one...

Yes, I vaguely remember that from when we discussed this before. It may have been on the .org site but I don't think the actual statement was available.

Becky's about to swim!

[Patti]

Yes, I vaguely remember that from when we discussed this before. It may have been on the .org site but I don't think the actual statement was available.

Becky's about to swim!

Arrr she got the bronze....i have tears...I'm so sad at times...

Bridget two of them are pillowcase weights I think....DRH/35 is the pillow....the two weights are not bullets or shell cases...I thought I recognised it. So that is only 3 that are above 2.26gms....I will check the others out....

[Bridget]

Arrr she got the bronze....i have tears...I'm so sad at times...

Bridget two of them are pillowcase weights I think....DRH/35 is the pillow....the two weights are not bullets or shell cases...I thought I recognised it. So that is only 3 that are above 2.26gms....I will check the others out....

No, it definately says bullets recovered from pillowcases... what are 'pillowcase weights' is that something northern?

[Patti]

I'm going to check up on DRH/35 because I do know there were whole bullets found...and there were approx 4 possibly 5...if one counts the one on the kitchen top at the side of the sink...I'll be back...

I'm wrong on this....The two bullets must have been exit bullets....the weight is 2.43 and 2.44

He compares the two bullets with the test fire...which he concludes are similar to having been fired from 18. Check date on the 11th September. Don't shout at me...

[Bridget]

I'm going to check up on DRH/35 because I do know there were whole bullets found...and there were approx 4 possibly 5...if one counts the one on the kitchen top at the side of the sink...I'll be back...

I'm wrong on this....The two bullets must have been exit bullets....the weight is 2.43 and 2.44

He compares the two bullets with the test fire...which he concludes are similar to having been fired from 18. Check date on the 11th September. Don't shout at me...

I have this:

DRH36 - 2.42
DRH35A and B 2.44 and 2.43
DRH5 - 2.42
PV24 - 2.4208
PV2 - 2.4267

All bullets...

[mike tesko]

No, I don't know where Mike got that info from either. Are you suggesting that some may be heavier because of um.. stuff?

I will make available a chart which produces the manufacturers weights for Eley .22 Lr Subsonic hollow point bullets, if anyone would like me to send them this information, via email...

Just ask and I will send relevant attachment via email...

[Patti]

I have this:

DRH36 - 2.42
DRH35A and B 2.44 and 2.43
DRH5 - 2.42
PV24 - 2.4208
PV2 - 2.4267

All bullets...

There may be a reason that those two bullets weighed that much and that is they never entered the body, they could have been missed shots....He continues to say that they are partially mushroomed. some fatty tissue on one of then,  couldn't confirm that either caused wounds.

So if this was the case then they could be classed as whole bullets or near enough so 2.43/4 could be the actual weight....I'll check June's exit wounds...Flippin heck it's hard work on here tonight...

[Patti]

I will make available a chart which produces the manufacturers weights for Eley .22 Lr Subsonic hollow point bullets, if anyone would like me to send them this information, via email...

Just ask and I will send relevant attachment via email...

Aww your a good en Mike...I'll be happy to have a chart...thank you. 

[mike tesko]

I have the manufacturers weight specifications for this type of bullet for anyone who is remotely interested...

Bullet weight is actually 2.27 grams, not 2.26...

[mike tesko]

Aww your a good en Mike...I'll be happy to have a chart...thank you. 

OK, I will send you a copy of the relevant document via email address now...

Please feel free to forward a copy to other members if you want to:-

[Patti]

OK, I will send you a copy of the relevant document via email address now...

Please feel free to forward a copy to other members if you want to:-

Thank you Mike. It does beg the question  Do bullets become heavy when fired? I will do a bit of googling....the only other answer of course, is that different bullets were used...? 

[mike tesko]

So Mike must be wrong then, when he says they all start out at 2.26g.

Yeah, I was wrong in suggesting the manufacturers bullet weight specification was 2.26gram, because it is 2.27gram...