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« Reply #120 on: July 14, 2012, 01:38:PM »

Possibly the same people who didn't believe they had the same inheritance rights as blood family.

Yes,it had to be one of them.

I know one thing with this case, and that there's been an awful lot of buck-passing from day one,,,to date.!

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« Reply #121 on: July 14, 2012, 01:45:PM »

Possibly the same people who didn't believe they had the same inheritance rights as blood family.
In actual fact that word cuckoo is the real tell tail word which shows that the family were nore interested in the inheritance than they would like to let on. One word reveals their whole hearts desire.

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« Reply #122 on: July 14, 2012, 02:07:PM »
In actual fact that word cuckoo is the real tell tail word which shows that the family were nore interested in the inheritance than they would like to let on. One word reveals their whole hearts desire.

Hi Grahame. Personally, I think the word, in that particular application, on par with a word starting with n and ending with r. I experience both words as offensive and degrading, but to paraphrase an old and oft used quote "I suppose I would, wouldn't I"?

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« Reply #123 on: July 14, 2012, 03:59:PM »
The missing piece of toenail belonging to Sheila,,which was found downstairs,,,would have been damaged by the recoil of the rifle. Nobody has made the suggestion that she'd have been holding, and firing the rifle to have done that.  There would have been bleeding from that alone,,, if the nail was torn from the nailbed.

Would not that also have been proof on its own that she had the rifle,,and injured her own toe with it.?
Nobody else is going to shoot someone in the toe.

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« Reply #124 on: July 14, 2012, 04:18:PM »
The missing piece of toenail belonging to Sheila,,which was found downstairs,,,would have been damaged by the recoil of the rifle. Nobody has made the suggestion that she'd have been holding, and firing the rifle to have done that.  There would have been bleeding from that alone,,, if the nail was torn from the nailbed.

Would not that also have been proof on its own that she had the rifle,,and injured her own toe with it.?
Nobody else is going to shoot someone in the toe.

Might it have been merely varnish?  Not being in the habit of painting my own toenails, I'm rather at a disadvantage re this query  :-\    :D

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« Reply #125 on: July 14, 2012, 04:25:PM »
The missing piece of toenail belonging to Sheila,,which was found downstairs,,,would have been damaged by the recoil of the rifle. Nobody has made the suggestion that she'd have been holding, and firing the rifle to have done that.  There would have been bleeding from that alone,,, if the nail was torn from the nailbed.

Would not that also have been proof on its own that she had the rifle,,and injured her own toe with it.?
Nobody else is going to shoot someone in the toe.

Um... how does recoil damage a toe?
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« Reply #126 on: July 14, 2012, 04:34:PM »
Might it have been merely varnish?  Not being in the habit of painting my own toenails, I'm rather at a disadvantage re this query  :-\    :D
Whatever is was it means that Sheila was downstairs at some point.

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« Reply #127 on: July 14, 2012, 05:05:PM »
Um... how does recoil damage a toe?

See Birdwell Armoury photos.  Though I would have thought that this would be relating to the 2nd shot and not the first.

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« Reply #128 on: July 14, 2012, 05:27:PM »
Yes,it had to be one of them.

I know one thing with this case, and that there's been an awful lot of buck-passing from day one,,,to date.!

Wasn't there some television programme a year or two ago where investigators took some DNA samples from a bedroom carpet and lamp,with the full co-operation of Anne Eaton,the current owner of White House Farm?This would seem to be out of character were she trying to cover up the truth.

It was Jeremy who expressed a wish to have carpets and bedding burned quickly after the murders; okay he was traumatised and upset one might argue, but wouldn't June have wanted a burial,instead of the cremation she,her husband and Sheila received?

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« Reply #129 on: July 14, 2012, 06:02:PM »
See Birdwell Armoury photos.  Though I would have thought that this would be relating to the 2nd shot and not the first.

If it was the second shot the gun wouldn't have ended up where it was.

Anyway, there isn't any record of damage or injury to her toe is there?
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« Reply #130 on: July 14, 2012, 06:09:PM »
If it was the second shot the gun wouldn't have ended up where it was.

Anyway, there isn't any record of damage or injury to her toe is there?

Would it be possible for her to achieve the angle of the first shot whilst in one of the Birdwell Armoury photo positions?

The only thing I know about the toenail was the 'Sutherst chip' i.e. red chipping which allegedly matches her toe nail in colour... and matches a missing chip in shape.

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« Reply #131 on: July 14, 2012, 06:14:PM »
Would it be possible for her to achieve the angle of the first shot whilst in one of the Birdwell Armoury photo positions?

I suppose anything is possible, if you're a contortionist.

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The only thing I know about the toenail was the 'Sutherst chip' i.e. red chipping which allegedly matches her toe nail in colour... and matches a missing chip in shape.

It's disputed though, that it  is a missing chip at all isn't it? In the photo I've seen here it looks like camera flash.
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« Reply #132 on: July 14, 2012, 06:25:PM »
I suppose anything is possible, if you're a contortionist.

It's disputed though, that it  is a missing chip at all isn't it? In the photo I've seen here it looks like camera flash.

I would check first before going with the contortionist theory.

Do you have a link to the red chip / flash photo? (if there is one ???)

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« Reply #133 on: July 14, 2012, 06:34:PM »
I would check first before going with the contortionist theory.

Do you have a link to the red chip / flash photo? (if there is one ???)

There's this, but I seem to recall seeing a better one somewhere:

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« Reply #134 on: July 14, 2012, 08:59:PM »
Wasn't there some television programme a year or two ago where investigators took some DNA samples from a bedroom carpet and lamp,with the full co-operation of Anne Eaton,the current owner of White House Farm?This would seem to be out of character were she trying to cover up the truth.

It was Jeremy who expressed a wish to have carpets and bedding burned quickly after the murders; okay he was traumatised and upset one might argue, but wouldn't June have wanted a burial,instead of the cremation she,her husband and Sheila received?
Sheilas funeral was not his decision. Quite probably Ann Eaton was not trying to cover up the truth? She probably believes quite honestly that Jeremy is guilty?