Absent soot from blood tells a story...

[mike tesko]

When the crucial flake of blood was allegedly found inside the baffles of the silencer, it had no soot mingled in it. Yet to be fathomed out is how Sheila's blood managed to get beyond the out rushing gases and firearms residue /soot, without being coated or contaminated by it? I do not believe blood from Sheila was forced back into the silencer by backspatter and that her blood managed to evade all those gases, all that FDR?

[lookout]

When the crucial flake of blood was allegedly found inside the baffles of the silencer, it had no soot mingled in it. Yet to be fathomed out is how Sheila's blood managed to get beyond the out rushing gases and firearms residue /soot, without being coated or contaminated by it? I do not believe blood from Sheila was forced back into the silencer by backspatter and that her blood managed to evade all those gases, all that FDR?

Mike I know diddly squat about firearms,,but how often does it have to be " cleaned " after each firing.?
If not cleaned,,would it be as efficient in firing,or would there be any internal damage making a difference to how the bullets are expelled.? I'm assuming that the baffles are some sort of metal which after a " frenzied " non-stop firing,would buckle in the heat.? Also any oil,without replacement,would have evaporated,,always supposing that oil was used. 

[lookout]

Mike,,John Howards' witness statement in 1985 stated that the flake of blood found in the silencer could have originated from either Robert Boutflour or Sheila as both had the same blood groupings::

A.EAP,BA,AKi,PGM1+HP2-1.

An interesting fact because RB also owned an identical Parker Hale silencer,and that it may well have been his hair that went missing in transit.

[ngb1066]

Mike I know diddly squat about firearms,,but how often does it have to be " cleaned " after each firing.?
If not cleaned,,would it be as efficient in firing,or would there be any internal damage making a difference to how the bullets are expelled.? I'm assuming that the baffles are some sort of metal which after a " frenzied " non-stop firing,would buckle in the heat.? Also any oil,without replacement,would have evaporated,,always supposing that oil was used.

A rifle does not have to be cleaned after each firing.  a large number of rounds - certainly hundreds - can be fired before the performance of the rifle could be affected.  The metal baffles of the sound moderator would not bucke in the heat of repeated firing.  Oil is used to lubricate the working parts of the rifle but the rifle does not require to be oiled after each firing.  I hope that helps.

[mike tesko]

Mike,,John Howards' witness statement in 1985 stated that the flake of blood found in the silencer could have originated from either Robert Boutflour or Sheila as both had the same blood groupings::

A.EAP,BA,AKi,PGM1+HP2-1.

An interesting fact because RB also owned an identical Parker Hale silencer,and that it may well have been his hair that went missing in transit.

After Jeremy's trial, Essex police handed two Parker hale silencers back to the relatives, one belonging to David Boutflour, and the other to Robert Woodwis Boutflour. What is so very interesting about these two silencers is how and why they ended up being taken by a police motorcylist to the trial. Why did the prosecution want both these silencers at court, and not the other Parker hale silencer belonging to Anthony Pargeter? It don't make sense police taking control of the two Boutflour silencers, yet for them to ignore the Pargeter silencer that was normally kept at WHF? Something dodgy has been going on with all these silencers. If the jury had known police showed an interest in all these different silencers and that there were three exhibit references purporting to relate to the same silencer, I think the dodgy silencer evidence woild have been rejected by the jury, and thrown out by the trial judge...

[-Harters-]

Mike,,John Howards' witness statement in 1985 stated that the flake of blood found in the silencer could have originated from either Robert Boutflour or Sheila as both had the same blood groupings::

A.EAP,BA,AKi,PGM1+HP2-1.

An interesting fact because RB also owned an identical Parker Hale silencer,and that it may well have been his hair that went missing in transit.

Surely you mean John Walter Hayward (Not Howard) and 1986 not 1985?

[lookout]

Surely you mean John Walter Hayward (Not Howard) and 1986 not 1985?
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=411.0;attach=1216;image

A slip of the tongue. I stand corrected. This was the blood expert,,yes.?

[-Harters-]

A slip of the tongue. I stand corrected. This was the blood expert,,yes.?

He was a Forensic scientist, yes blood analysis formed part of his expertise.

[lookout]

As quoted,," The rifle bore blood smearing on the barrel in the region of the fore-sight and around the mechanism,and there were splashes of blood to the left side of the weapon.  The appearance of the blood-staining was consistent with it having been used to strike somebody who was already bleeding.
On analysis the blood was found to be human blood,,,but tests to determine grouping were unsuccessful.?? ( I question this because if a flake the size of a pin-head can be grouped,why couldn't this ?.)

A " pull-through " on the barrel of the rifle was conducted for any traces of blood within the weapon. There were none. ",unquote.

[lookout]

Also absent was the piece of wood which had broken off the stock and which was found on the floor.
Photographs of the damaged rifle too.
Was Nevills' watch ever examined.? That too was on the floor underneath a rug/carpet.I would imagine that was as a result of the embedded nail marks on his arm,that his watch was dragged off.

[Bridget]

As quoted,," The rifle bore blood smearing on the barrel in the region of the fore-sight and around the mechanism,and there were splashes of blood to the left side of the weapon.  The appearance of the blood-staining was consistent with it having been used to strike somebody who was already bleeding.
On analysis the blood was found to be human blood,,,but tests to determine grouping were unsuccessful.?? ( I question this because if a flake the size of a pin-head can be grouped,why couldn't this ?.)

A " pull-through " on the barrel of the rifle was conducted for any traces of blood within the weapon. There were none. ",unquote.

The flake wasn't the size of a pin head, it was a 1/4 inch across.

[lookout]

The flake wasn't the size of a pin head, it was a 1/4 inch across.

Sorry Bridget,.,but there's no comparison when it comes to splashes of blood on the side of the rifle,,,which must have been more noticeable than a flake,,yet no grouping could be taken.? I don't believe it.

[Bridget]

Sorry Bridget,.,but there's no comparison when it comes to splashes of blood on the side of the rifle,,,which must have been more noticeable than a flake,,yet no grouping could be taken.? I don't believe it.

Again, it's your choice not to believe the experts. Whose blood do you think it was and why would they need to cover it up?

[lookout]

Again, it's your choice not to believe the experts. Whose blood do you think it was and why would they need to cover it up?

Bridget,,so far as I can gather,,it was June who was covered in blood,,literally from head to toe ( sadly ),,so I'm assuming that's where all the blood came from,,,starting from the kitchen and ending upstairs in the bedroom. Whereas Nevill was in the same place from whence he'd entered.

[Bridget]

Bridget,,so far as I can gather,,it was June who was covered in blood,,literally from head to toe ( sadly ),,so I'm assuming that's where all the blood came from,,,starting from the kitchen and ending upstairs in the bedroom. Whereas Nevill was in the same place from whence he'd entered.

So you're saying it was June's blood on the rifle? It's possible, but what difference would it make if it was?