telephone logs.

[Neil]

you are a really nice guy Neil. :D

Hi Maggie, you are too kind.  You are all such a lovely bunch on here.  Whatever side of the fence you sit, I think that all things considered, everyone gets along just fine.  It's so hard sometimes to express what you want to say, without someone misinterpreting it and getting upset, you have to be so careful.  I think that since the period of unrest a little while ago, the forum has settled down really nicely and you get some lively, extremely well informed debate.  There are some real experts on here, I just love picking all your brains.

[grahameb]

I wasnt kicking him Neil, neither was I angry. I just said I thought it was a rubbish theory. Thats fair enough I thought.

Of course its a rubbish theory Maggie and quite frankly it is very worrying that a jury even considered it. I wonder where they found that jury? But of course you can get gifted lawyers who can convince an ass that he is a horse.

[Caroline R]

Hi Caroline

I don't think he was wearing a wet suit either. I remember Aunt Agatha saying she has Jeremy's wet suit...I do believe she also said it had been examined, but someone might correct me..

Thanks for that Patti - that really did make me laugh! Where esle would you read the sentence "I remember Aunt Agatha saying she has Jeremy's wet suit...I do believe she also said it had been examined" 

[Bridget]

Hi Caroline

I don't think he was wearing a wet suit either. I remember Aunt Agatha saying she has Jeremy's wet suit...I do believe she also said it had been examined, but someone might correct me..

Not me, you are correct, they did examine a wetsuit.

[Neil]

Of course its a rubbish theory Maggie and quite frankly it is very worrying that a jury even considered it. I wonder where they found that jury? But of course you can get gifted lawyers who can convince an ass that he is a horse.

Now that's got me thinking....did Jeremy have access to a horse?

[grahameb]

Thanks for that Patti - that really did make me laugh! Where esle would you read the sentence "I remember Aunt Agatha saying she has Jeremy's wet suit...I do believe she also said it had been examined" 

Yes AA has the wetsuit. I've still got mine. But its shrunk a bit. Thats my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

[Patti]

Not me, you are correct, they did examine a wetsuit.

Bridget Thank you...

[lookout]

Now that's got me thinking....did Jeremy have access to a horse?

Maybe a clothes horse,Neil. 

[Patti]

Maybe a clothes horse,Neil. 

Or a box 

[Jane]

Now that's got me thinking....did Jeremy have access to a horse?

Hi Neil. I feel sure there would have been a sawing horse laying around somewhere.

[mertol22]

It may have been here on the forum an image of the cycle , will be back later ,if its the type of cycle i think it is my only question to anyone have you tried riding one ?

[Caroline R]

It may have been here on the forum an image of the cycle , will be back later ,if its the type of cycle i think it is my only question to anyone have you tried riding one ?

Pic of the bicycle

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/bicycle

[mertol22]

Pic of the bicycle

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/bicycle

Many thanks, ive no doubt the jam will say different but that bike looks like a sit up and beg type , a bit like a dutch cycle, looks 3-speed change on handlebars, and 26x 1/38 tyres, thin easy to punture steel heavy as hell a pain to use , good for nipping to localn shops , a bear for cross country ,

[grahameb]

Many thanks, ive no doubt the jam will say different but that bike looks like a sit up and beg type , a bit like a dutch cycle, looks 3-speed change on handlebars, and 26x 1/38 tyres, thin easy to punture steel heavy as hell a pain to use , good for nipping to localn shops , a bear for cross country ,

Mertol it is a silly idea that too much time has been spent on.

[Ben]

Here are sequence of events according to both telephone logs.

Nevill’s call                                               Jeremy’s call
   
Made at 3.26                                           Made at 3.36
   
Police dispatched car CA7 (3.35am)            Despatched another car CA5
   
CA7 arrives at the scene at 3.48                 CA5 arrives at 4.23
   
Refers to Sheila as ‘Daughter’                    Refers to Sheila as ‘Sister’
   
Address White House Farm                        Address Head St, Goldhanger
   
860209 – WHF number                              88645 – Jeremy’s phone number
   
Says his Daughter has gone ‘Beserk’           Jeremy says Sister had gone ‘crazy’
   
Nevill says Sheila was 26 yrs                       Jeremy says Sheila was 27 yrs
   
Nevill lists shotguns and .410’s                   Jeremy makes no mention of any other guns in the house
   
He says she has got one of ‘my’ guns         Jeremy Says ‘the gun’

This is by kind supply from the official Jeremy Bamber website. All copyright belongs to them.

Could I ask some questions that have puzzled me for a long time? A single judge ruled that time of 3.26 was a mistake. And because of this everybody seems to reject Ralphs call to the police as just a copy.

Very sorry but this still problem with me.

(1) Why was car CA7 dispatched at 3.35 when Jeremy's call was at 3.36?

If the Father had called, i'm sure it would have been mentioned by the Police to Jeremy on the night of the murders and in statements by the Police of on the events of the evening, because at that time Jeremy was not a suspect. But it was not and the caller on the log is the Police officre transfering Jeremys call, this has all been proved. This point should really be closed now!