Author Topic: telephone logs.  (Read 84646 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

-Harters-

  • Guest
Re: telephone logs.
« Reply #315 on: July 13, 2012, 12:50:PM »

No,,but you invent a lot more other things.

That doesn't reinforce your argument about the alleged presence of "blood saturated outdoor clothes", you may think it does, but it doesn't.

Offline lookout

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 48670
Re: telephone logs.
« Reply #316 on: July 13, 2012, 12:53:PM »
That doesn't reinforce your argument about the alleged presence of "blood saturated outdoor clothes", you may think it does, but it doesn't.

Anyone else would have understood what I'd meant,,apart from a pedant such as yourself.

Offline Bridget

  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5065
Re: telephone logs.
« Reply #317 on: July 13, 2012, 12:58:PM »
Anyone else would have understood what I'd meant,,apart from a pedant such as yourself.

What did you mean then?
....just cos I eat worms...

Online Steve_uk

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 21091
Re: telephone logs.
« Reply #318 on: July 13, 2012, 01:00:PM »
Nothing's impossible,,Andrea,,simply because none of us were there to witness anything,,,and if this is how the case itself was worked out,,then it sure was the most unfair trial to end all trials.
However,my belief that Jeremy is innocent,still stands.

Jeremy is quick to implant in the Police's mind that his sister is "a nutter",yet leaves a loaded gun lying on the settle in full view of the household the previous evening. He had also allegedly tried to get Shiela to handle a gun in front of relatives. From what I have read Sheila did not like guns,she had last handled a gun at a shoot in Scotland in 1979. We have evidence from Pamela Boutflour who spoke to her late on 6th August saying she sounded like a zombie,and Anne Eaton's evidence that Sheila "couldn't put beans on toast".

The phone call purportedly emanating from White House Farm was a means to give Jeremy the chance to blacken Sheila's character and to afford him an alibi of sorts. He knows full well that they are all dead by his own hand;the only way he can be discovered is if the emergency services send an ambulance quickly and manage to resuscitate Sheila,which is why he dallies so long in contacting them.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2012, 01:01:PM by Steve_uk »

-Harters-

  • Guest
Re: telephone logs.
« Reply #319 on: July 13, 2012, 01:00:PM »
Anyone else would have understood what I'd meant,,apart from a pedant such as yourself.

I understood exactly what you meant. You were suggesting that Sheilas blood stained clothes were put to soak in buckets of water before she changed into a nightie.

I'm merely pointing out to you that there were not any blood soaked clothes soaking in buckets other than her underwear from being caught out.

Therefore, your suggestion can not possibly be true.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2012, 01:01:PM by -The Jam- »

Online Steve_uk

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 21091
Re: telephone logs.
« Reply #320 on: July 13, 2012, 01:03:PM »
I understood exactly what you meant. You were suggesting that Sheilas blood stained clothes were put to soak in buckets of water before she changed into a nightie.

I'm merely pointing out to you that there were not ant blood soaked clothes soaking in buckets other than her underwear from being caught out.

Therefore, your suggest can not possibly be true.

I think there may have been a top and track suit bottoms in another bucket. It's possible that they got blood soaked when she was menstruating.

Offline Bridget

  • Veteran Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5065
Re: telephone logs.
« Reply #321 on: July 13, 2012, 01:04:PM »
I think there may have been a top and track suit bottoms in another bucket. It's possible that they got blood soaked when she was menstruating.

No top, just joggers.
....just cos I eat worms...

Online Steve_uk

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 21091
Re: telephone logs.
« Reply #322 on: July 13, 2012, 01:08:PM »
On the subject of clothes did we ever get to the bottom of why Jeremy was wearing more clothes than normal for August back at Goldhanger cottage?

Caroline R

  • Guest
Re: telephone logs.
« Reply #323 on: July 13, 2012, 01:10:PM »
Thats right, Bridget. Surley had Sheila committed the murders, other blood would have been found.

They didn't have the methods of detecting blood splatter that they do today - had the nighty been available for forensic testing today, there might indeed be other blood. However, as it wasn't seen fit to keep such important evidence, we will never know but nor (by the same token) can it be dismissed as a 'possibility'!

Offline grahameb

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 11830
Re: telephone logs.
« Reply #324 on: July 13, 2012, 01:12:PM »
Was she running around topless then?
All your theories are built upon sopposition alone. All hearsay. There is absolutely no forensic evidence that connects JB to the crime.

Offline grahameb

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 11830
Re: telephone logs.
« Reply #325 on: July 13, 2012, 01:14:PM »
How could anyone back up Julies story? Bamber only told her of his plans, nobody else.
Allegedly. We only have Mugfords word for that.

Offline grahameb

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 11830
Re: telephone logs.
« Reply #326 on: July 13, 2012, 01:16:PM »
Not a chance, Harts. Neville would have called 999, thats it.
Maybe he did? But until we see all the logs we will never know will we.

-Harters-

  • Guest
Re: telephone logs.
« Reply #327 on: July 13, 2012, 01:17:PM »
They didn't have the methods of detecting blood splatter that they do today - had the nighty been available for forensic testing today, there might indeed be other blood. However, as it wasn't seen fit to keep such important evidence, we will never know but nor (by the same token) can it be dismissed as a 'possibility'!

It doesn't need to be dismissed, he was convicted 27 years ago. The onus is no longer on the prosecution to prove his guilt, that has already been done in a court of law.

Offline grahameb

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 11830
Re: telephone logs.
« Reply #328 on: July 13, 2012, 01:20:PM »

What I meant were Sheilas' clothes that she wore that day other than her nightie which she changed into.
Nothing clever about your remarks btw,,I just find them immature. Anything to make yourself look a pratt.
Don't worry about the BGB's mocking lookout. They only have their prejudice to comfort their total inability to think straight.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2012, 01:31:PM by grahame »

Offline grahameb

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 11830
Re: telephone logs.
« Reply #329 on: July 13, 2012, 01:21:PM »
It was two pairs of knickers (stained you-know-where) and a pair of joggers.
Could you provide a reference to that information please?